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I must be a sucker for punishment. I'm looking for dual intake options other than an offy. This is for a 1962 235. I've heard there are other cool alternatives -some still available, some not. Pictures are worth a thousand words!

Well, let's see . . . there is:
Fenton
Edelbrock
Edmunds
Harper
McGurk
Newhouse
Nicson
Sharp
Offenhauser
Thickstun
Tatersfield
Clark
Wayne
Lee and
53-54 Corvette Factory Intake.

Some are 216 intakes, but the ports can be opened up to fit the 235-261 head. With a 216 intake you will have to run small base carbs, but some believe the smaller base cuts down on the CFM of intake, thus the vacuum rises and the fuel and air hit the combustion chamber quicker.

Good luck on your hunt for an intake!

Joe

Hey Joe, that's a pretty good list! Can I add a few?

- D&S (basically a Fenton)

- Ellis (maybe only made as a single?)

- Weiand (I don't have one, missed out on the only one I've ever seen).

Can you think of anymore?

Good list. Don't know about later model trucks, but check the clearance if you have a column mount 3-speed. A lot of those intakes would not clear the shifter mechanism on my "50. I ended up with an Edelbrock that just barely cleared(had to grind a hair off one of the shifter arms). A Sharp,Tattersfield,and Edmunds would also clear. My Fenton and Thickstun would not.

Barry,I seem to remember a Weiand at Iola a year or two ago at that guys booth with all the old intakes. His prices are a little scary though. 2 weeks till the big show!!

Bob

I had no idea there were so many. The only ones I've seen available are the offenhauser and a supercharger on E-bay for over $1000. So... which ones are available today and where can I see pictures of them? Thanks in advance.

ALL of the intakes listed by myself and Barry Weeks are still around. You have to look hard and get lucky. None of them are still in production except the Offenhauser.

Just as a point of interest, the shape of the Sharp, Edelbrock, Weiand, Edmunds and Tattersfield were kind of "U" shaped and because of that they cleared the shifting arms on trucks with column shifters. These are the ones you need to look for, unless you are running a four speed or a T-5 five speed transmission. You also probably want a 2 x 1 intake as a 3 x 1 could cause clearence problems. Some of the makers of these old intakes did offer a 3 x 1 version, like Nicson.

The Edmunds was the only intake set up for water heating the intake. It might be the best choice and I have seen them at swap meets here in Texas and Oklahoma.

I've got some pictures of about four table tops of intakes for inline six engines I took at the Pate Swap Meet here in Fort Worth in 2004. The same guy was there in 2005. If you will email me, I can send the pictures to you. It'll blow you mind!!

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I'm going to back up and tell you that the Edmunds will not work with the column shifter. I had one and sold it to a fellow with a 1950 Chevrolet pickup with a 235 in it and the Edmunds rear water outlet (out of the manifold) hit the shifting forks.

So let's eleminate that one from the list!!

Hey 6cylinders, my email should have reached you and thank you very much! My truck is a C-10 longbed with 4 on the floor and 3.90 posi. The whole truck is all original besides a few rubber parts and other regular maintainence items. Well... at least until a couple of weeks ago when I added a set of fenton headers and a water heat system to the original intake. My next step is to get radial tires. I'm having my wheels rebuilt so that I can use the stock hubcaps. I'm not in a real hurry to add a new intake as I want to find one that screams eye candy. The offenhauser doesn't do it for me. I want something with curves. I'm very satified with current performance so if I improve on it - that is just a bonus. I read horror stories about multiple carb hook-ups and am just brave enough to tackle 2. Forget about triples. Thanks again.

..screams eye candy and has curves? You want a Thickstun. Coolest looking 6-cyl. intake ever made. Has round finned runners at each end. Last one I sold on ebay brought $250. Saw one at the swap meet last weekend for $225.

I had a Nickson intake with cast in hot water heater manufactured in Los Angeles Ca. some time in the 50s.only one i have ever seen or heard of

Can I get pictures also my addy is [email protected]

I have a Bailey 3x1 that is water heated.The outside carbs are a tad bit closer to the center carb(compared to Offy) so I dont think there will be firewall clerence problems.

The coolest looking intake that I have seen is the Harper 3x2.It takes 3 bolt dorf carbs and is multi piece.The only thing connecting the carbs/individual intakes is the linkage.

I would also like to add CYCLONE to that list,I just bought one a couple of weeks ago.

Thanks for the pics 6cylinders. Some of those are outrageous! That's exactly what I'm looking for. I would like to get ahold of this guy for individual close-up pics. Do you happen to know how I can get in contact with him? Or maybe find out where the next swap meet is? Anyone know of any meets near Seattle?

Oh yes, Cyclone, good thing you remembered that one, as I had forgotten about it. I tried to buy one a few years ago, but was a day late and a dollar short! I think Cyclone was made by Cook's Machine Shop?

Bob- I think the speed equipment vendor you are thinking of is Scott Sendtko. I think he's from Michigan? He has lots of cool intakes and valvecovers, but not cheap. The last email addy I have for him is: [email protected]. Otherwise I see him at all the usual swap meets, Hershey, Iola, Des Moines Goodguys, Cedar Rapids, etc.. In fact I just sold him an old Funderbird go-kart at the Back to the '50's swap in St. Paul last Sunday.

Yeah Barry,
I think that's him. I bought a Nicson valve cover from him about 5 years ago. At the time I thought the price was high, but after I've seen what they've gotten on E-Bay for them lately, I ended up doing pretty well. Too cool to sell though, and it looks nice on my '50. Now I still need to find a Nicson side cover. Been looking for years, and the ones on E-Bay go for silly money.

Bob

I am looking for the Nicson set(valve & pushrod cover)also to run with my Nicson intake and Hollywood deeptone dual(split)exhaust manifold that I have.

And I'm also looking for a tall Nicson side cover to go with my aluminum Nicson head. I have the Nicson valve cover, sidedraft intake and headers. No wonder this Nicson stuff goes so high on Ebay, too many of us looking for it!

Can you send me pictures of the Nicson stuff that you have.I did not know that Nicson made a head or sidedraft intake.You got my motor running,I want one of them heads also!

doctasuds-There is an Edelbrock intake on the inliners classifieds,if I did not already have one I would make an offer.

Are you an Inliner? If so, I did a story with pictures on this Nicson stuff for the May/June 2000 issue of the 12-Port News. Pages 21-22. This was when a friend of mine owned the parts and I was doing some work on them. After owning the parts for over 20 years, he lost interest and I bought all his Nicson stuff. Not easy to find the aluminum heads, I've heard of only a couple others besides mine. I'm sure there are more out there, just hard to find and expensive. Plus these heads only fit the 216 and early 235, not the later 235 due to the headbolt pattern change.

What I would really like to find is an original Sharp short sidecover.(if one was ever made?) If I can find one, I will try to buy it. If I can't buy it, I will copy it and make a reproduction. I would really like an original though, and I have a friend that would like one too. Right 6cylindersovertexas?

I belong to the message board but that is about it.I just ghost the board and check the classifieds for 235/216 speed equipment.I favor the 216 speed equipment over the 235 stuff because it is harder to find.I have a full pressure 216 longblock that I had built a few years ago,it is a 39 block and I would like to put it in my dream car(do not own it yet).I haved built the engine in my head many times and it just got a new head today:)I am thinking like this:
216 full pressure block
Nicson
valve cover
pushrod cover
intake
head
Hollywood deep tone exhaust
Inner Line oil Filtor
Dual exhaust with 12" steelpacks
37 lasalle trans w/adaptor

Do you have an extra copy of that 12 port news?

Holly smokes!!

I didn't mean to open a can of - OLD SPEED EQUIPMENT!!!!!!!!!!

I hope everyone has gotten the pictures of the 2004 Pate Swap Meet tables. Something - huh?

ViejitosCC, I do have a Harper intake. It is almost complete and I have never tried to use it. They are impractical, but I bought it so I would have one. This guy with the table of stuff has one that is complete. Barry, I don't remember if I told you I had a Harper.

Barry - I have seen a picture of a tall Nicson side cover, but nothing on a later 235-261 short side cover. :rolleyes: And Y-E-S!!! I would be a BUYER for almost any sidecover, especially Fenton and Sharp, although I must admit I have never seen a short Sharp, only a tall one. I have seen a picture of a Fenton.

I do have a "CALFORNIA BILL" side cover for the 216-old 235 engine made by California Bill Fisher. I've had it for years and ran it on my old 216. Always got the looks and questions on it! Wrote a letter to Mr. Fisher once and asked him how many of them he made. Reply: Less than 100. It is the first piece of my museum collection!!!!!!!!

Any time you want to talk about 6 cyl speed equipment I will be here to listen.I get tired of hearing about the Offy/Fenton combo though.

Me too. I can't get too excited about anything that is still produced. I like all the old obsolete stuff and have slowly been trying to collect ALL of it over the last 20 years. Will never happen, because the more I get into it, the more I find out I don't have!

ViejitosCC- I don't have an extra copy, but if you send me your snail mail address, I'll make photocopies of that and more Nicson info. for you and mail it to you. My email should be in my profile, just click on the little question mark dealie in one of my posts.

Barry Weeks-I will do that.


6cylindersovertexas-Those pics are sweet.I think I spotted a cyclone in there but had different runners than mine.

I have not been to Pate in a few years but looks like I will go to the next one.

Looks like I'm going to have to start going to these swap meets so you guys don't get all the good stuff

And to make things really depressing, I was at a swap meet in AZ. about 20 years ago and a guy had close to a dozen various 216 intakes. He was asking $35 apiece for them. DOH!!

I've seen the Nicson and Sharp side covers. Never saw a California Bill one. I also seem to remember one that had no name. Anybody know of anymore?

Bob

Doctasuds asked "Anyone know of any meets near Seattle?"

Do you know about or go to the Monroe Swap Meet? It is an annual meet and very big.

Kels

Bob- I wasn't going to mention this, but since you brought it up... About 15-20 years ago, when I was getting into buying/selling/trading the 6-cylinder speed parts and no one else was, I bought many intakes as cheap as $5 ea., ($20 was about right here in the midwest) and the seller's usually thought I was nuts for buying them! If I had only known then what I know now!

Doctasuds- Portland in April is good, or at least it was about 10 years ago when I was out there. Came home with a truckload.

Joe- I have an original 1950 California Bill catalog of Chevrolet Speed Equipment. Shown in the catalog is your tall side cover. It sold for $18.50. What a rip-off! This might be the dumbest question I've ever asked you, but do you want copies of this? 16 page catalog, it also shows other worthless junk like Nicson, Cyclone and Edlebrock intakes, Barker Hi-Lift rocker arms, Scintilla mags, Potvin cams, insert rods etc... You probably have little or no interest in this? LOL

Naw, I'm not interested (RIGHT), but how quick can you get to me????????!!!!!!!!!!


Seriously, I'd love to have a copy, but no need to rush. Work it into your schedule!

Thanks,
Joe

Barry Weeks-can I get a copy of that California Bills catalog also?

A friend of a friends just bought a bunch of the Cyclone molds and has started reproducing flathead stuff.I told my friend to ask him to please DO NOT reproduce the chevy 6 stuff.

There was a guy that made some no name ones a few years ago that advertised in Hemmings.I wouldnt mind getting one of those to run temporary on my 48' sedan delivery until I find an original.

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ViejitosCC -
Where is Belen, NM?

27 miles south of Albuquerque New Mexico in the center of the state-its called the Hub City.

Hurst is between Dallas and Fortworth right?I think I saw it on the map when I was in Austin about 3 weeks back.

I always wished I lived in a town with a cool name like Hurst. Reminds me of Linda Vaughn.

Barry-where is Lake Elmo in relation to the Twin Cities?I may be out there for the 4th of July weekend.

Yes, Sir! Hurst is the third stop going west from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. We are about 7 or 8 miles from the Airport on Airport Freeway. Population: 38,000.

I have lived here since 1960 - eight years after Hurst became a city. What puts Hurst on the map? It is the home of Bell Helicopter.

I love Albuquerque - I guess Belen is similar. Nice country and close to the mountains.

I was right near you then.I had to drive up to Dallas to take the Swedes to the airport.

Belen is similar but alot smaller.

Ok now back to vintage speed equipment...

Jaime - I'm about 20 minutes east of St. Paul, near the Minn./Wisc. border. Downtown Lake Elmo is huge (3 streets pretty much), I live right in town. My street is the main one that goes all the way through town, the next street over is 2 blocks long and the 3rd street is only 1 block long. Only house on the block with a '40 PU buried in the front yard with flowers around it. Please keep me posted on if you are going to get up here or not. Maybe you should try and stay a few more days and hit the Iola, Wisc. swap meet? About 250 miles east of the Twin Cities. It starts Wed. afternoon the 6th. Thursday would be a better day to go if you have time.

My Dad had just bought a new 58 tri-powered 348 Impala and sent away to McGurk for a catalog. I came across it after he passed away and found it tucked in a drawer, still in the original mailing envelope with a lot of flyers for hopping up 6's, small blocks and the new 348. How do these prices sound to you, effective 4-1-58.

Chevy Super Dual intake with all linkages and fuel lines, $46.00, add a pair of new Stromberg carbs for $37.50

Set of 6 Power-Dome pistons,7 3/4 comp. ratio,$45.00

Milled,filled,and ported head, $48.00 exchange.

3/4 cam, $35.00 exchange

Rods converted to inserts with new bearings, $32.00 exchange.

Aluminum McGurk rocker cover with chrome breather,$24.00

New Corvette dual exhaust manifolds, $14.50

Granted $40-$50 a week were about the working man's take home pay in the 50's so I guess looking at it that way, this stuff was pretty steep for the average Joe back then.

Barry, are you setting up a booth at Iola?

Bob, please order me 10 of the new Corvette dual exhaust manifolds at $14.50 each! I wish we could go back in time briefly, I would buy the Nicson and Sharp sidecovers I dream of. Notice how many of those parts are listed as exchange? Other than the new cast aluminum parts, most hi-perf. stuff seemed to be reworked stock parts. Now it seems to be the other way around, most hi-perf. parts are new, very little is reworked stock parts.

No, I quit swapping at Iola in the mid-'80's when our spaces got flooded out and they wanted us to get Wisc. tax numbers to boot. I just go there to buy now. Could meet you at the tower Wed. afternoon or Thursday though if you will be there then?