The Stovebolt Site Forums The Shop Area Engine Shop Old PTO's- parts or rebuilds available..

I have my SM420 being rebuilt-bearings, seals and replacing the top plate and shifter. The repair guy orginally wanted to replace all the gears because of water damage but I looked at them and it seemed purely cosmetic..so I put a hault to that. The gears had no damaged teeth etc.I called him to pick up the tranny and now he says he can't get some of the seals for the PTO-not that I was having any problems with it.He said he could re-machine something so a more common seal could be used. I told him just to put it back on and I'd pick it up..the bill has grown another $200 from what he originally said and I think I'm being milked.

Back to my question: Any sources for PTO parts-if needed-can new or rebuilt ones still be purchased?

Why do I have a PTO? My 55 2nd series came with a dump bed-regular step side..but it dumps...handy for dump runs.

Thanks,

Keith

Keith,

You don't have to have a PTO unless you are going to use it. Block off plates can be found or made easily and 'problem solved'.

All seals are identified by ID, OD, width and lip style. There are bazillions of seals made and almost all are available somewhere. If you don't have a need for the PTO, block it off and deal with it later.

You probably aren't' being milked, the guy is doing it the only way he knows how, with the correct new parts. It's his reputation that is at stake.

Stuart

Ya..I've thought about a block off..however I do use it..so I plan to try it and see what happens. I don't recall it leaking in the past. If it does then I'll block it-and search for parts..

I'll give some thought to what you said about his reputation..

Thanks Stuart,

Keith

What brand PTO? If it's a Chelsea, parts are still available for them.

Don't know what it is Long..Just know its bolted to the SM 420-Did Muncie make there own?

Thanks,

Keith

Hi, I am brand new and hopefully won't bore you guys with a stupid question, but here goes.

I have a 1941 chevy 1 ton dually that I just purchased. It has a 4 speed tranny. I would like to find a pto/hoist and bed for it. How can I tell if a pto/hoist/bed will fit? I saw an add for a 1950, pto & hoist. Will that fit?

Thanks for the help!

Jon

Yes, Muncie made PTOs, but others did, too. If it's a Muncie, the oil seals are:

- Timken 480821 or Chicago Rawhide 7474
- Timken 480889

Thanks Polarcat..I'll see if I can find a name on the PTO

I'll look those parts up. Small world I work for a metal stamping company that stamps seal inserts for both those companies.

Apreciate the help..

Keith

Hi Slickriffs. The Muncie you may be thinking of is not the one who made the Muncie 4 speeds for the old Corvettes and muscle cars but is Muncie Power Products in Muncie, IN.

If you have an old Muncie PTO it will be a Chelsea A series if it's cast iron anyway. Muncie at that time was a catalog company who resold the products of many other true manufacturers and were very good at it. They are now a manufacturer of their own products. You should have no problem at all with the seals from them or locally for that matter. Fleetpride is the CT distributor and they have 4 locations.

Thanks for clearing that up MoneyPit..I had some work done on the tranny recently and had the mechanic look at it. He found 2 of the seals but couldn't locate one of them..He got creative and used an O ring to repair the existing one..So far no leaks..

I'll need to turn my attention to what the PTO drives-the pump for the dump stepside..not sure I'll find any name on it.

Thanks again,

Slick

When you get to the pump part of the equasion e-mail me some photos of it. I may be able to help you out on identifing it and locating parts.

Dave..that would be much appreciated..I'm in the garage today..the battery is charged in the camera..so I'll shoot a few pics..so far the only thing I've seen on it is the # 321..

Thank You Mr. Moderator

Keith