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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 54 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 54 | I am installing a power glide trans. in my 1951 Chevrolet truck. That will work best with the 235 engine. The power glide I have has the following gear pattern. park, neutral, drive, drive 1, reverse. My question, is there anything I can do to make the gear pattern like the standard automatic? Thanks everyone for all of help. | | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Dendo,
Is PRNDL the shift sequence you want? I don't think you can get it with the Power glide. The most you could hope for would be the exact reverse of the pattern you have now, but no other arrangement.
Stuart | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | Reverse was at the bottom of the quadrant on a PG but I don't think there is a D1 position. Never saw a D-1 on a PG, P-N-D-L-R. Is L (low) what you are calling D1? | | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 54 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 54 | Yes, I am calling L the drive 1, do you have any way I can get the PRNDL secquence? Are there any bad things I need to know about a PG tranny? | | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Dennis,
There is no way to change your transmission gear sequence. The cast iron power glide is a good strong tranny.
Stuart | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | Dendo - I am wondering if the reason you want the PRNDL sequence is because that is the quadrant your steering colume has on it. If thois is the case then you can replace that with a proper PG indicator from a later year car colume. The PowerGlide is a good solid transmission and the early one are often used behind some very high HP drag cars. Biggest problem is finding an older local tranny guy that can work on them.
..and no comments on the "local tranny guy" remark, OK? :>)
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 54 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 54 | Dave, I hate to be a pest but, that is what my wife says I am best at....Anyway. Do you know what model of cars I need to be checking or do you have a car with it in it.. Thanks again Dennis
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,746 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,746 | The cast iron case transmissions were made in 3 or 4 versions from 1951 to 1961. The aluminum-case models (which is what the drag racers use) was made from 62 to about 65 or so. I don't know if there is an aluminum case trans with a bellhousing pattern that will bolt onto the 216/235 block.
Advantages- - - -light weight, fairly durable, simple to rebuild.
Disadvantages- - - -2 speeds- - -too low and too high. The cast iron models are unbelievably heavy! Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 147 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 147 | Back in the early 60s, my buddies and I made 2 all out attempts to destroy a powerglide and failed both times. They were converting to 4 speeds, and wanted to see how much a PG would take. Bob
55 Cameo 396 TH 400 with overdrive 65 Caliente conv 67 BB Caliente conv 67 Mercury 1 Ton 76 GMC 3/4 ton 454ci 84 Buick Turbo Regal
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | My testiment to the PowerGlides is what did to attemp destroying my Dads 59 Impala w/ 348/PG. I threw it into reverse at 50 MPH and it did a nose dive that nearly scuffed the front bumper. Kill the engine but the tranny worked just fine. I was sweating bullets on that one. Old man never did find out.
Dendo: I don't have one currently but don't understand your question. What is it that you want? A quadrant? If so most of the old chevy outfits have them.
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| | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | I though most automatics had a reverse lockout to prevent them from going into reverse when moving forward. Maybe not!
Stuart | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,746 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,746 | Apparently, Chevy didn't think a reverse lockout was necessary. The first PG trans to arrive in Nashville, Tennessee came to Jim Reed Chevrolet in 1951, in the new 2-door hardtop, with a 235 engine. All three of these options were brand new for 1951. The night before the official roll-out, which had been highly publicized in the local newspapers, a bunch of salesmen from the dealership were "road testing" the new car. In those days, a salesman's road test consisted of getting tanked up on beer or whiskey, and running wide open down the nearest highway. About 10 miles south of town, at wide-open throttle, somebody asked, "What will it do if we put it in reverse?" "Well, it won't hurt a Studebaker!" "A Chevy is better than any damned old Studebaker!" At 90 MPH, into reverse it goes! The transmission case split wide open, the car had to be towed back to the dealership, all the salesmen on that ride got fired, and the car went on display in the showroom the next morning with a pile of newspapers stacked up under the transmission to catch the fluid dripping out of it! It was two weeks before a replacement transmission arrived from the factory! Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 147 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 147 | :-) That was one of the things my buddy did on purpose, but from 30mph. What a ride! Bob
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 130 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 130 | I have a '56 powerglide I'd like to get rid of... | | | | | Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 461 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 461 | If I remember correctly, the 1958 and later cast iron PG has the PRNDL gear positions. I think that change was made to eliminate the possibility of accidently shifting into reverse when down-shifting to manual Low. The iron Powerglide with a V8 in front of it can be broken-- bring the engine up to 1500-1800 RPM in neutral, pull the shifter to Drive, press on the accelerator and the planetary gear set will shed its teeth. But I understand the '59 and later Turboglides would stand up to that- at least according to Chevrolet at the time.
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