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#37341 03/27/2003 6:35 AM | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 20 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 20 | My rear cylinders were rusted frozen. So in addition to replacing them I figure I will replace the springs, etc. Is replacing the shoes a good idea. They are not worn very much, no deep scratches etc. and the money could come in handy with other parts I need. Is it worth the expense for future peace of mind?
Just wondering what the opinions are. Thanks Dave
54 1ton
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#37342 03/27/2003 7:23 AM | Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 385 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 385 | Unless you're going to have the drums turned, I don't see any reason to dump a good set of shoes. Make sure everything else works correctly, and spend that money on more immediate concerns.
Disclaimer: I'm notoriously cheap. If it's going to worry you, get new ones. | | |
#37343 03/27/2003 3:28 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | crabby,
I agree with Hedgehog (in all regards - especially the disclaimer).
Make sure the shoes and drum have been cleaned, especially of oil/grease. In addition, rough-up the shoes with coarse sandpaper. Be sure to wear a dust mask.
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#37344 03/27/2003 3:47 PM | Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 481 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 481 | Can a brake shoe lining that's been exposed to brake fluid and grease be cleaned for re-use ? Cleaning solvent ? | | |
#37345 03/27/2003 5:16 PM | Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 784 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 784 | Rusty46, that's a good question about cleaning break shoes. I havn't got an answer but I would like to know the same thing for clutch plates. Can they be cleaned once they have had oil on them? Thanks George | | |
#37346 03/27/2003 6:52 PM | Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 354 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 354 | I've had reasonable success cleaning brake fluid off shoes with denatured alcohol. It takes several flooding applications of the alcohol to get most of it off, but it will not completely remove all the fluid if it's soaked deep into the lining. You can usually find it at paint stores, Home-Depot etc. Shellac thinner is also denatured alcohol. Alcohol will not clean oil/grease very well. HLW
Harold Wilson 41 Chevy 3/4 Ton
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#37347 03/27/2003 8:23 PM | Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 481 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 481 | Hi George-I've had good results cleaning older Harley Davidson clutch plates with aerosol brake parts cleaner, many spray applications did work to flush away the oil. | | |
#37348 03/29/2003 2:44 AM | Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 | I had a leaking break cylinder once and even after cleaning the pads they never worked properly again. They remained sticky, noisy and eventually cracked after several down hill rides with my daily driver.
Autozone (got no affiliation with them) offers a set of pads for $20 with a life time warranty. If you keep bringing them the worn shoes, you get a new reconditioned set back at no charge. I change mine every 3 years on my daily driver.
Remember to install the shoes with the shorter pads on the side facing in the driving direction. The shoe with the longer pad should face to the rear. They work more efficiently that way. | | |
#37349 03/29/2003 2:49 AM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | Well, what is the value of your truck or whatever you might run into if the brakes should happen to fail 
There is enough good in the worst of us and enough bad in the best of us that it does not behoove any of us to criticize the rest of us. - - Be yourself. If you are ever lost, It will be much easier to find yourself if you know who you are!
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#37350 03/29/2003 3:56 AM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | You will NOT be able to get all the fluid out of the shoes. Sooner or later, it will resurface and result in a grabby brake. And it only happens when you need them most. Yes, shoes cost money, but like Luke said, pay now or later.
Fred 52 3600 69 C-10
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#37351 03/31/2003 4:33 AM | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 587 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 587 | Use Brakleen to clean the parts. NO, if fluid or grease from axle on shoes, they are done. You may be able to clean and get to work for awhile, but they will "bleed" out the oil in deeper and start to grab bad. I've done that on a big truck and even had one wheel locking up till I backed up some. It had like new linings, just got fluid on them. If bigger truck you can have recovered at brake shops cheaper than new shoes and most hard to find big shoes anyway. Most half-ton shoes are easy to find at vendors. From 51 they go way into 60's as same shoes. Replace springs and hardware if you can find it all. Chevs of the 40s has lots of parts for brakes, but need to open wallet wider! 
G.L. Grumpy's Old Iron Ranch Huntington, IN 46750
MM R tractor, Speedex and Power King tractors
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