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The gauge will only read from EMPTY to HALF-FULL. I took the sender out, applied power and grounded it. I then would move the float arm back and for the whole range. The gauge would read the whole range from EMPTY to FULL. I would then re-install the sender and it would only read up to half. I just filled up today! The one thing I think it may be is the ground. When I re-installed it, it wasn't even grounded and it read HALF-FULL. I attached the ground wire and it changed nothing.
So what is the deal here? Do I have a ground problem? Because the gauge and sender work without the ground wire attached.
Last edited by ApacheFiend; 01/12/2008 12:49 AM.
58' 3200 235 3-speed/OD
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 | Have I stumped ya'll or what?
58' 3200 235 3-speed/OD
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | if it reads [wrong] when in place there's nothing wrong with the ground - if it reads [right] when moved manually, the float is being held in the wrong position - I'd bend the arm so that when the tank's full it reads full and see what it reads when the tank's empty
Bill | | | | | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 Apprentice | | Apprentice Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 | ApacheFiend,
Cannot believe it, but I have the same issue. Rebuilt cluster, new sender they tell me was even calibrated - I only get to half full on a full tank of fuel. Maybe someone knows!
1950 AD Chevy 235 - 3 on the tree - straight pipe & cherry bomb - baaaam bam bam bam bam I am no mechanic, but I am going to try on this one!
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | actually mambo, it's a real common issue - so the next check is as soon as the gauge reads Empty, stop and fill it to see how much it takes to refill ... I'm bettin it'll be about 8-10 gallons
then do as I suggested above and with a full tank, bend the float arm until it reads a full tank when in place
Bill | | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 | Red58-
You know when my tank reads Empty, it does only take about 8-11 gallons or so. Im gonna double check it on this fill up and I will try bending to correct the issue. Thanks alot Red!
58' 3200 235 3-speed/OD
| | | | | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 Apprentice | | Apprentice Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 | Red, been gone awhile :-(
I cannot get the thing to measure full even by hand. I have a ground wire on the sender, I pull it out, push it all the way up, still at half - or just above. I was told from BowTiebits that the gauge was calibrate and it is hard to believe that I have had this same issue with 2 different rebuild gauges and two different senders. It really is not rocket science but it has me baffled.
1950 AD Chevy 235 - 3 on the tree - straight pipe & cherry bomb - baaaam bam bam bam bam I am no mechanic, but I am going to try on this one!
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | maybe the wire rubbed raw and 'grounding' between the sender and gauge? sender wrong resistance value?
Bill | | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 | This sounds to me like a problem with the guage, not the sender. The guage case itself needs to have a good ground to operate. Take a jumper wire with alligator clips and just clip between the guage case and a good ground and see if the needle will move to full when the sender is all the way up. If it does, either make a good mechanical ground to the dash, or just run a permanent ground jumper. Hope this helps. | | | | | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 | I found out my sender was for a 54 not a 50. Works now  Virg | | | | | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 Apprentice | | Apprentice Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 | Well, here is what I am going to do this weekend. I will run a ground wire to the gauge and a new one to the sender and a different wire from the gauge to the sender. The wires are new but in the painting of the truck something “could” have happened. I will post then. Thanks for the suggestions!
1950 AD Chevy 235 - 3 on the tree - straight pipe & cherry bomb - baaaam bam bam bam bam I am no mechanic, but I am going to try on this one!
| | | | | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 Apprentice | | Apprentice Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 | Well I guess I have learned to live with my gauge even though I don’t like it. I was told by bowtiebits that the sender and gauge were calibrated for each other. I ran new wires, I checked voltage, still full of fuel, gauge reads just above half. I am lost.
1950 AD Chevy 235 - 3 on the tree - straight pipe & cherry bomb - baaaam bam bam bam bam I am no mechanic, but I am going to try on this one!
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | you might try bending the float arm, to fool it into thinkin it's full - when it is try the unit out of the tank [held against a ground] to see if the full range of the gauge reads ehile you manually move the float, if there's a position it reads full, bending it should work, then you just have to figure out what reading means empty .... carry a gas can until you run out Bill | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,983 Master Gabster | | Master Gabster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,983 | Sometimes you just give up! I would guess your at that point and don't blame you one bit. Remember there is always a silver lining in every cloud and we should always seek to see something positive in every event. It is a good think you can tell when you are about to run out of fuel. Now isn't that a positive thought? 
~Jim
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 143 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 143 | I had this same problem with my sending unit. Grounding it to the cab instead of the tank seemed to fix it. | | |
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