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#359630 01/12/2008 12:48 AM
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I have done a search for this, maybe not far enough back, but I searched pretty thorough.

The gauge will only read from EMPTY to HALF-FULL. I took the sender out, applied power and grounded it. I then would move the float arm back and for the whole range. The gauge would read the whole range from EMPTY to FULL. I would then re-install the sender and it would only read up to half. I just filled up today! The one thing I think it may be is the ground. When I re-installed it, it wasn't even grounded and it read HALF-FULL. I attached the ground wire and it changed nothing.

So what is the deal here? Do I have a ground problem? Because the gauge and sender work without the ground wire attached.

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Have I stumped ya'll or what?


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if it reads [wrong] when in place there's nothing wrong with the ground - if it reads [right] when moved manually, the float is being held in the wrong position - I'd bend the arm so that when the tank's full it reads full and see what it reads when the tank's empty

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ApacheFiend,

Cannot believe it, but I have the same issue. Rebuilt cluster, new sender they tell me was even calibrated - I only get to half full on a full tank of fuel. Maybe someone knows!



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actually mambo, it's a real common issue - so the next check is as soon as the gauge reads Empty, stop and fill it to see how much it takes to refill ... I'm bettin it'll be about 8-10 gallons

then do as I suggested above and with a full tank, bend the float arm until it reads a full tank when in place

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Red58-

You know when my tank reads Empty, it does only take about 8-11 gallons or so. Im gonna double check it on this fill up and I will try bending to correct the issue. Thanks alot Red!


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Red, been gone awhile :-(

I cannot get the thing to measure full even by hand. I have a ground wire on the sender, I pull it out, push it all the way up, still at half - or just above. I was told from BowTiebits that the gauge was calibrate and it is hard to believe that I have had this same issue with 2 different rebuild gauges and two different senders. It really is not rocket science but it has me baffled.


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maybe the wire rubbed raw and 'grounding' between the sender and gauge? sender wrong resistance value?

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This sounds to me like a problem with the guage, not the sender. The guage case itself needs to have a good ground to operate. Take a jumper wire with alligator clips and just clip between the guage case and a good ground and see if the needle will move to full when the sender is all the way up. If it does, either make a good mechanical ground to the dash, or just run a permanent ground jumper. Hope this helps.

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I found out my sender was for a 54 not a 50. Works now smile Virg

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Well, here is what I am going to do this weekend. I will run a ground wire to the gauge and a new one to the sender and a different wire from the gauge to the sender. The wires are new but in the painting of the truck something “could” have happened. I will post then. Thanks for the suggestions!


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Well I guess I have learned to live with my gauge even though I don’t like it. I was told by bowtiebits that the sender and gauge were calibrated for each other. I ran new wires, I checked voltage, still full of fuel, gauge reads just above half. I am lost.


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you might try bending the float arm, to fool it into thinkin it's full - when it is grin
try the unit out of the tank [held against a ground] to see if the full range of the gauge reads ehile you manually move the float, if there's a position it reads full, bending it should work, then you just have to figure out what reading means empty .... carry a gas can until you run out

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Sometimes you just give up! I would guess your at that point and don't blame you one bit. Remember there is always a silver lining in every cloud and we should always seek to see something positive in every event. It is a good think you can tell when you are about to run out of fuel. Now isn't that a positive thought? grin


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I had this same problem with my sending unit. Grounding it to the cab instead of the tank seemed to fix it.


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