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#35466 10/27/2002 9:33 PM | Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 136 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 136 | My 350/quadrajet/HEI sat for over a year and a half while I did the chassis on my 57. I set the timing mark on 6 degrees BTDC, and eye-balled the rotor position. She fired instantly, and seems to run fine (in the garage). I can't believe I hit the mark the first time, so my question is, what is the correct timing for this engine? Also, the distributor doesn't move under a quick throttle-up. I would expect the vacuum advance to move the distributor body. Is something stuck, or am I expecting too much ?? | | |
#35467 10/27/2002 10:58 PM | Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 58 Member | | Member Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 58 | Russell, The usual settings for the 350 is 4 to 9 deg. before. I'm not sure if I understand the second part, but the outside body of the distributor shouldn't move, the advance moves the inside plate. Anyway you must be close if it went right away good luck. | | |
#35468 10/27/2002 11:14 PM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 146 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 146 | Your vacuum advance only moves slowly. You will not see it move much just reving the engine. As far as advance settings go with the sad stuff the sell as gas. I like to drive the truck and make changes then. I ended up with an idle setting of 6 deg. BTDC with 17 deg mechanical advance and 22 deg vacuum advance. Gas octane, transmission type, rear end gear ratio and kind of use will change the best settings for your motor. It's not hard it just takes time.
if it dosen't need fixed, break it
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#35469 10/28/2002 4:41 AM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 109 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 109 | I sorta agree, but on accel, vac advance should move up quite noticeably. Set the base timing around 8 degrees, go from there. Drive it hard, should not ping if an automatic, WILL ping lightly if a stick and lugged down a little. If you have loud exhaust, you wont hear it ping.
Oh yeah, GM HEI always gum up inside, especially after sitting. remove rotor, clean and WD-40 weights, make sure they move and return fully smoothly. Check that plate rotates under vac advance.
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#35470 10/28/2002 5:01 AM | Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 72 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 72 |  howziit guys! i could be wrong, but isn't vacuum advance supposed to be instantly there, as soon as you plug it into the vacuum port(or after tip-in, if you use the ported vacuum outlet?) and..shouldn't you LOSE vacuum advance, as you lose engine vacuum, and mechanical advance kicks in? FYI, you can check if vacuum advance will work, by sucking hard, on the vacuum hose(with the engine on, you will hear the engine speed advance). you will see the diaphragm's "trombone arm" pull the distributor advance plate. when the engine is idling, the vacuum advance should be activated. BTW, on some 6-cylinder engines, the vacuum advance moves the distributor. on most V8's, vacuum advance moves the inside plate, not the distributor body.
Myron
1956 chevy 3100 stepside, Pro-Street stance, mild 454 BBC/350/9"/13" M/T'S, daily driver, aka THE PINK LADY
1957 Bel-Air coupe, 500 HP blown sbc in progress, aka LANI
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#35471 10/28/2002 1:13 PM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 146 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 146 | 5-7 youv'e got port vacuum and manifold vacuun mixed up. The vacuum advance unit should be hooked to the carb venturi port.
if it dosen't need fixed, break it
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#35472 10/28/2002 7:38 PM | Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 72 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 72 |  howziit kedso! nope, i know the difference between the vacuum ports; the ported circuit is located ABOVE the throttle plate. some people actually run their vacuum advance off the ported outlet... my truck's previous owner had the distributor connected to the ported vacuum outlet. i switched it back to full vacuum "port"(THIS "port" means outlet, fitting,location,spot,source.) BTW, kedso, not meaning to pick on you. just wondering, for my own info, how you get 17* mechanical advance. i've seen 20*, heard of 22*. i myself run 10* vacuum advance, 12* initial, 20* mechanical advance.(still searching for the "right" timing combination, will probably try more lead advance.
Myron
1956 chevy 3100 stepside, Pro-Street stance, mild 454 BBC/350/9"/13" M/T'S, daily driver, aka THE PINK LADY
1957 Bel-Air coupe, 500 HP blown sbc in progress, aka LANI
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#35473 10/29/2002 12:41 AM | Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 136 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 136 | Good stuff. I knew I could get all the info I needed from you guys. Thanks till my next crisis. | | |
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