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in a "Suburban" and a "Carryall"? I've heard both terms used to describe the vehicles with station wagon type windows, but is there really a difference? I've got one, which I've owned for over 25 years, and used as a daily driver for a long time. It's a 59 model, with sliding windows, and plug-in sockets in the floor for rear seats. At some time in the past, it's had panel truck style rear doors installed, but there's evidence it had the clamshell tailgate at one time. I installed a 307 engine, 4-speed granny box trans, and a Dana 60 3/4 ton rear end back in the late 70's. I'm considering a rehab again, this time with a Caddy 500 engine, Turbo 400 trans, and a 3/4 ton IFS suspension to go with the Dana rear end. Maybe someday!
Jerry

Carryall...is that not the brand name for the International?

I've seen Carryall Suburban as a model name.

GMC called their version of the Cameo pickup a Suburban and there was a Chrysler product that was called a Suburban back in the 50's.

If you go to www.OldGMCtrucks.com (as I type this the site isn't responding) and look around you'll see GMC Suburbans clearly called Suburbans in factory literature.

some where in this great internet world i reas that both names were used as a description in other truck mfgs. GMC/chevy latched (copyright)on to "suburban" later on then with in the last four or five years chevorlet took the name "suburban" for itself and gave gmc the yukon?

tony'n weatherford :confused: :confused:

The International vehicle was called a "Travel-all", and was similar to the Chevrolet vehicle, a station wagon with the same front end as the pickup. The Boy Scout camp I attended back in the 60's had a mid-50's, military-surplus Suburban called a "Carryall" by the camp cadre, so it might have been a military term for the Burb. That's not the only place I've heard the name, though.
Jerry

I've seen the Chevy/GMC from before 67 listed as a carryall when they only had 2 doors.I think a lot of the confusion comes from the way automakers marketed vehicles.The Travelall was an International in a Suburban body style-Anyone know where there is one worth saving for cheap?

Howdy...
In either Chevrolet or GMC versions, for at least the years of 1960 to 1966 (my interest), window versions, with or without rear seats, were called "Suburban"... Tradesman or commercial models, those WITHOUT side windows were called "Carryall"...
My father had a 1965 Chevrolet Suburban, while I have a 1964 Chevrolet Carryall...
Both had fixed rear door glass in either configuration... Suburbans had front bench seats, split, where the passenger side seat folded forward to allow passenger access to the rear seating area, whereas Carryall models had a straight front bench seat... Unless of course it was equipped with individual seats upfront, although I've never seen one factory-equipped that way.
Additionally, I believe, but not sure, that only Suburban models had the option of a "tailgate" instead of barn doors... Carryalls only came with the "barn doors"
3 door "Suburbans" only became available, as an upgraded model, with the introduction of the 1967 restyling. And I believe the CARRYALL moniker was dropped for both Chevrolet and GMC, leaving only a "SUBURBAN" model, in personal and commercial application option packages... I think this was done because both Chevrolet and GMC were about to introduce full-fledged VAN models to the lineup, and to eliminate some excessive redundancy in the overall line-up...
Hope this helps...

Carryall

This term was in use long before the first motorized trucks were being produced.

Here\'s an early Dodge Carryall

Here is a pretty good History of the Suburban . It too bad that this site is inactive (it looks like the website was copied to Classic Truck Shop's site). Some of the "facts" might not be completely correct but the information is interesting and the rest of that Early Burb website has a lot of good information.

Tim

As best I've been able to learn, the site has always been hosted by Classic Truck Shop. The club migrated to a Yahoo group. The people who created the site and the club are no longer involved and have not responded to my efforts to reach them.

Last I asked, Classic Truck Shop had not been able to reach them either.