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I have a 1954 1 Ton with eight lug wheels. I recently saw a 1 Ton on ebay that had 6 lug. What's the reasoning for the differance? Mine has dual rear tires, does that require more lugs? I have no big problem with this, just curious.

The AD Chevy 3/4 and 1 ton trucks have 8 lugs.
6 lugs on such a truck is either not original, or missing two studs.

Grigg

I've seen alot of 1 1/2, - 3 ton AD trucks, mislabeled as 1 ton trucks, on ebay.

This is the 1954 on ebay I was talking about. It actually has 5 lug wheels. Whats up with that?? Everything to me appears to be a one ton. Possibly somebody put the cab and fenders on a larger frame or swapped something?

I'd bet it is a ton and a half. But the rear wheels look like one ton wheels. The front end ....wonder what size tires are on the front, if they are bigger than 18", I'd say it's bigger than a one ton

A lot of the 1 1/2T and 2 T had 5 bolt wheels the bolt pattern is a lot larger as is the studs, think baby freightliner/hino

Hy guys, some thing funny is going on with that truck, it definately has no larger than one ton sheet metal on it, but the front hubs are from a 2 ton [bolt on bearing cover], and the rear axle looks like it is using only five studs as well, and it has the same number of hand holes as the eighteen inch wheels, something weird is happening here.

If that is a 3800 cab, it looks like someone used a '54 1-ton cab and put it on a 1.5 or 2 ton chassis. I've only seen the 5 bolt front/10 bolt rear combination on the 1.5 ton and larger trucks, as TooMany noted in his post. In the picture of the interior of the cab there is what appears to be a second shift lever (it doesn't look like an e-brake handle) that I'm assuming would be for the two speed rear end that is found on the 1.5 ton and larger. If someone has better information on this, please correct me as I'm still learning. Of course all my musings are for naught if someone did something else with the chassis. That's part of the fun of this hobby.

I think that it's just that, a 1 ton cab on a 1 1/2 or 2 ton chassis. It's definetly the heavier chassis. Also, look at the plate in the door jamb. 8800# GVW?? Not on a truck of that capacity! I'm going to venture to say that at one time, that truck had some sort of PTO driven device, perhaps a dump bed? The seller certainly doesn't know what he really has.

Longbox55,

Yes, there are 1 ton trucks with 8800# GVWR. I have one, a 52 GMC.

I have both a 1 ton, and a 2 ton AD truck.

My guess by looking at the pictures is that is a true 1 ton dual wheel truck, cab fenders, and frame.

The frame looks small enough, the part that I can see in the pictures, to be a 1 ton. The shape of the bumper also confirms that it is a 1 ton, and not a 4100, which has essentially the same frame, but different bumper and bumper mounting arrangement.

The rear wheels look like the 18" 8 lug that are correct for the 1 ton dual wheel truck, so rear axle is correct.

The front fenders and hood look like the small 1 ton size.

The front axle is from a 2 ton as mentioned earlier. This because of the 5 lug and bolt on hub caps. I believe the wheels are the 19.5" tubeless with probably 8R19.5 tires. They will fit under the 1 ton fenders, as I have run them before on my 1 ton. The front axle and or springs from a 1 ton will also fit the frame on 1.5 and 2 ton trucks, I have installed an axle from my 1 ton in my 2 ton, bolts right in.

So, what we have is a 1 ton dual wheel truck with all the correct parts except for the front axle assembly that is from a 2 ton.

Grigg

Can someone please clear something up for me????
When I bought my 62 flatbed, at one point I was told it was a one ton and I have also been told it is a one and a half ton... It has 8 lug 19-1/2 inch tubeless wheels. How can I tell what it is? What exactly IS the difference between a one ton and a one and a half? :confused: :confused:

A '60-'66 Chevrolet 30 series, is considered a 1 ton. 40 series 1 1/4 ton, 50 series 1 1/2 ton, 60 series 2 ton. 60H, & 70 series 2 1/2 ton, & 80 series 3 ton.

I didn't make my post too clear, I meant that 8800# would be wrong for a 1 1/2-2 ton, and that the data plate is for a 1 ton.