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i have torn down my 235 to the block still in the truck, i need help on the bell housing area of the removal...
Do remove the engine with the bell housing on the engine or can i disconnect the bell housing from the engine and just pull the block out. I hope this dont sound stupid but this is my first time pulling out an engine that was not an air cooled vw. the donor engine came from a 62 chevy truck and is a 261, i just pulled the bell housing out with the engine and left the transmission in the truck, I think that i have to do the same to my 235 in my truck, i cant slide the transmission back enough to clear the spline so i will have to pull the engine forward and up out of the truck, i put a stand under the transmission so that i will not fall with i lift it out.

what are the procedures of pulling out an inline six near the rear of the engine?

any help would be great.

thanks alot
jeff

Jeff;
I have a '49 GMC half ton with a 261 in it. When I pulled it out for the rebuild, I took out the radiator and front cowl assembly but that was because I removed the engine and tranny as an assembly. Is your radiator still in and not giving you enough wiggle room to the front?

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Hey Jeff, what year is your truck? Some of the details vary by year...

Hy superpieboy, the easiest way to pull the engine if you don't remove the transmission, is to remove the front sheet metal [fenders grille as an assembly] and then pull the engine separating it from the transmission. You can also pull the engine with the front sheet metal in place, a bit more tricky but it can be done. The bellhousing cannot be separated from the engine without first removing the clutch and flywheel, hope that helps.

You can unbolt the tranny and slide it back. Since there are no tranny mounts on the AD truck you will either have to block it up or lay it on the floor. Then the engine will come out with the hood off, provided your hoist goes high enough to clear the radiator support. Pull the radiator first, so you don't damage it. Removing the bell housing/clutch is easiest with the engine out of the truck, I usually lay the engine on it's side on sawhorses for that.

I don't know what year truck you have but I pulled the engine from my '53.I took the whole front end apart but if you don't want to do that you can cut the radiator shroud and leave the fenders on.If you zoom in on this photo you can see where someone welded the top of my radiator shroud back on after a previous motor swap.I pulled my motor with the bellhousing and left the tranny in the truck .There were 4 bolts holding the bell housing to the tranny.There were 2 on the top outside of the bellhousing and 2 inside the bellhousing (you have to take off the dust cover on the bottom of the bell housing to gain access).Have your hoist hooked up to the motor first(for safety) before un bolting it.I did mine by myself and had never pulled a motor either,it was suprisingly easy.Hope this helps.

The top piece of the rad support (that skippy cut above), can be unbolted from 1/2 ton to 1 tons.
I second the remove the rad, grill and all that stuff to slide it out the front.

Good Luck.

my truck is an ice cream truck

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i did get the 235 out with the bell housing left on the block, i had to remove the radiator, fan, and the alternator for added clearence, this p10 stepvan does not open in the front so i had to pull the engine out the side door. like fred t says i had to block up the transmission so it would not fall, i am amazed that there is no transmission mount for it, i hope that i get this back together right

Do i need to use my 235 bellhousing or the 261? i am using the 261 that is being rebuilt. i dont know about the differances of the two engines...

i have never seen sooo much crud under a car in my life, i mean inches thick of road crap and grease , i bet i just scraped off 5 pounds of crud today...


thanks
jeff

Jeff, the bell housings are the same,all of the parts will interchange between them as the only difference is the 261 has larger pistons and rods,all else is the same. Where are you in La. I'm in metairie,La