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| | Forums66 Topics126,778 Posts1,039,288 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 12 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 12 | I picked up a 51 pickup to build for my wife. she is very fond of the looks of those old trucks. I already have decided to keep it a low HP six because she doesn't particularly enjoy driving any of my faster stuff, she just wants to cruise. My question is transmissions. My first thought was to get a complete 235/three speed drive train. I have not driven any old three speed trucks but I have to guess they are real truck transmissions, long throws, stiff clutches etc... is that correct.Diane has always driven stick cars but they have been late model Japanese stuff. I have a Muncie laying around as well as a couple TH autos. would my best bet be using a more modern 250 inline with one of those and just fabbing up mounts or can I use a more modern tranny with a 235 saving the older look. Any guidance would be appreciated as this is a totally new world for me. Thanks Greg | | | | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 243 | the 235 with all orig, gear and clutch should not be a problem for her at all, my 3 on the tree is a slick tight pattern no problem | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 873 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 873 | A T5 tranny from an S10 would be a nice choice for your wife... | | | | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 707 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 707 | 1951 3800 Be the change you want to see. -hotshoe
| | | | Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 285 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 285 | What dbone said!  Mine shifts like a dream! | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | the 50's 3 speed works fine if everything is in good shape, just no 1st gear syncro, and a 10" clutch isn't tough ... an 11" would help keep her left leg strong enuff to kick yer butt Bill | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 | Gotta agree, the three speed is great. Really nice to drive. Mine doesnt have the synchronized 1st gear, so you may want to look into using a later model 3 speed, unless she wants to learn to double clutch! If you want to cruise over 50, you may want to look into a rear end upgrade or swap, assuming it still has the enclosed driveline still in it.
Before you get to far, think about what she would like, and what you want to spend to get there. That should help decide. Good luck!
Jeff | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 | Here's my 2 cents:
If she is gonna be cruising highway, then go for the T5 and maybe a rear end upgrade. I am pushing 2500 rpm going 55 on the highway going back and forth from school.
If she is just cruising around town, nothing above 60 mph, you can keep it stock. Plus side by keeping it that ways is I haven't had any tickets for speeding, only if I tried would I, lol.
Just ask her what she wants to do and go from there, good luck!
58' 3200 235 3-speed/OD
| | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 33 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 33 | My wife was the one who wanted the old truck, and she drives it all the time. It has the original 3 speed trans with column shift, and she has no problem driving it at all. She loves it. I will probably do a rear end upgrade someday, but plan to keep the transmission. | | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 513 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 513 | i'd put the muncie in, then it would still be a stick shift, but just on the floor, and like 55 newbie said i'd, update the rear end 1949 Chevy 3600 Flatbed all orginal 1964 gmc 4000 1973 gmc 6000 2005 chevy duramax 4x4 1994 chevy 1500 Trucks are GM and Tractors are Orange "I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom." - General George S. Patton | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,554 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,554 | If you put a t-5 and update the rearend your wife will love you forever ! 1951 3100 Chevrolet1951 Chevrolet Suburban CarryallImage"A house is built with boards and beams. A home is built with love and dreams." "Look deep before you leap !!!" / "Everything is Everything" "If I say a mouse can pull a house, hitch him up"
| | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | Anything except a stock type 3- or 4-speed is going to mean a change of rear axle. If you don't mind changing the rear I think the Japanese car reference suggests to me she'd be happiest with the T-5.
Actually I guess there is a kit to convert a Saginaw 4-speed to closed driveline so that would be an option with the stock rear too. An advantage is that a vintage look shifter is available for the Saginaw too.
As to whether you go with a 235 or a 250 that choice is really an independent issue, since you can run any of these transmissions with either motor.
The 235 of course is easier to install than the 250, since the 235 is the same mounting as the stock motor, but the 250 can be done without a lot of trouble.
The motor decision can drive from the look you want, or perhaps from what you find most readily available at your price or in the condition you want.
A few years ago a friend of mine was selling a 250 and Powerglide out of a Camaro. It's long gone now, but at the time I sure considered that package for one of my projects. Would have made a very nice driver.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 12 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 12 | thanks folks. found a 250 CI across town for $100. since the wife decided she wants an auto and I have a couple TH350s I guess it's a done deal. Now to figure the motor mounts and the rest of the drive train. | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 688 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 688 | Originally posted by ApacheFiend: Here's my 2 cents:
If she is gonna be cruising highway, then go for the T5 and maybe a rear end upgrade. I am pushing 2500 rpm going 55 on the highway going back and forth.
If she is just cruising around town, nothing above 60 mph, you can keep it stock.... I agree. Cliff59 | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | Originally posted by panchop: thanks folks. found a 250 CI across town for $100. since the wife decided she wants an auto and I have a couple TH350s I guess it's a done deal. Now to figure the motor mounts and the rest of the drive train. Inexpensive V-8 type crossmembers available from several vendors would be the easiest way to mount this combination. With a TH350 and a long-stroke motor the gears can be pretty mileage friendly even under 3:1 so pretty much any 70's or 80's GM rear about 62 inches wide should do the job.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | | | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 52 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 52 | I'd go with the T5. Bought a 51 last year w/ a T5. Drives great..inside cab looks stock.I drove cross country...it took 4 different trips about 9,000 miles..very nice setup...specially with today's changing times. | | |
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