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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 | Thanks to this forum, I was able to get the coil rebuilt on my 57 chevy standard truck heater. Now that I have it assembled however, I can't believe that this was the orig design. The round coil accomodates a pretty strong little three speed motor nesting in the middle of the coil. That motor propels the fan that is mounted in front of the coil. The air flow is nothing but a dribble. The fan blade pitch appears to be correct and the fan blade rpm is more than adequate. Am I doing something wrong, missing a part or was this the acceptable amount of heat and defrost flow? Appreciate anyones experience with this as I am mystified. Thanks
Bob K | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Bob - is the heater one similar to this? the 3 variations of TF heater didn't have round cores Bill | | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 58 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 58 | Thats just what I have honeybear. I just restored it and yes thats all it does. Not much good here in Missouri. My Dad had a 58 Apache with the "Deluxe" heater and it worked really well for the Colorado climate. I am keeping this one for the time being but I wouldn't mind having something a lot better someday. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 | bill thank for the reply. similar to your pix but not exactly. I took a pix and if I can figure how to send it to you, it will be attached or on another email to follow. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 | Thanks for the reply. Even though I live in Florida, I am dissappointed with the heater design. I can't believe they settled for that. It does give off some heat, but with a motor as powerful as the 3 speed that is in there, it is a pitiful waste. Not sure the defroster would even work up where you are. I have relatives up your way in Joplin, maybe Columbia, St. Joe, KC and other towns. This heater up there would be pretty worthless. Would send you a pix of the heater but not sure how to do that yet in this format. Thanks for reply.
Bob K | | | | | Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 136 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 136 | The heater on my 57 doesn't look like this. The motor is on top, hidden behind the glove box. Motor is also 3 speed, and the air blast is pretty substantial. Honeybear, are there dampers or flaps obstructing your air flow, or mouse nests in the way? | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Russell - your heater will be the factory deluxe or the factory standard Bill | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 | Russell,
No mice here. If someone will tell me how to import a pix of it, I can do that. Mine is similar to one that red58 has on his website (neither of the two in the last message however).
Bob K | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 | red58 - Obviously, you really know your stuff here and way more than me, however my core had a 57 mark on it, the heater itself really looks like it has been there the same amount of time as everything else and it is in two different factory manuals I have where the drawing is identical to mine. I was not aware there were 3 models though and only thought there was a standard (mine) and the deluxe.
Bob K | | | | | Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 565 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 565 | I hate to ask the obvious but here goes. Are you sure the motor is turning the right direction? The fan blade is not on backwards? Im really not familiar with what you have so forgive me if I'm asking stupid questions. Your airflow just dont seem right. Does it pull air over the heater core or push air through? Jeff
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | yeah, Bob, thinkin about this I remembered an RPO heater that has a round core in the accessories manual - listed here as "recirculating" RPO987654 - never seen one in person, just the "standard" one I linked above - yours must be that one ... I wonder when they dropped that? more mysteries and I'd appreciate a pic of it to include with the others! Bill | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 | No stupid questions there. I have checked it and to what I can see, the blade mounting ends up the same if taken off and remounted "backwards". The core fits in the housing and the small motor nests inside the middle of the core with the shaft protruding - the blade is approx the same diameter as the core and rotates in front of the core taking whatever heat is emitted from the core and "blowing" it into only one of two exits provided by the little flap door. The flap pushed in one direction blocks the defroster hose vent and creates in opening into the cab, move the arm the other way and the flap closes the opening into the cab and allows air to move into the defroster hose vents. Flow of air is a dribble however and the motor kicks ***. I will take it apart again and study it some more. Still open to suggestions and opinions though, as I obviously am somewhat new at this. Thanks,
Bob K | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 | OK Bill, I feel better now and looked at your illustration and that is it. I have a great pix of it and looked up some of this UBB and HTML crap and can't really figure out how to include a pix. Probably is easier than I am making it out to be, but I don't understand it. I can email you if you want or whatever, you tell me. Thanks for the confirmation.
Bob K | | | | | Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 565 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 565 | How about getting a new blade with more pitch?
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 | Bill,
sent you the pix at the apple juice email address
Bob K | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 | Jmoore,
Actually, the reason I am pretty confident about the blade pitch being correct is because I found a used one from some old guy in TX who sent it to me for $10 and it was a perfect match. I got a private email that suggested the motor may be running in wrong direction. I am not sure how to test that, or reverse it, but will take it apart again this weekend and play with it. Thanks,
Bob K | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | got the pics Bob - I'll put the heater ones up, and you hopefully have submitted truck pics to the editor for the gallery, that's a real nice 57 also, for posting pics in the forums, see the Manual linked in my sig line you can reverse the motor rotation by temporarily switching the + and ground, if the motor has 2 wires from it, which would mean it's possible they are reversed - if one wire, it's getting ground via the case, so it'd have to be an internal switch, not likely if it's an unmolested original .... you can check it easily when you have it apart and the motor is separate Bill | | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 443 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 443 | Red58, I saw the pictures of the heaters you posted. I have a 57 with the deluxe heater. Looks like you had a rusty one & painted it. Where did you get the color & paint for it? (Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the post with my question) 1957 Chevrolet 1/2-ton Stepside LB in the Gallery My Photobucket shots The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | no hijack, we're talkin heaters the rusty one is still rusty, the other one wasn't as rusty, but I did rebuild it all - the color is PlastiKote hammertone gray, which I used for most of the interior on my Frankentruck interior - I like it alot, reminds me of the "old days" and suits the heaters perfectly Bill | | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 443 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 443 | Thanks for the paint info. I like the color and need to paint my heater box. The mice lived inside it too many years before I got the truck so I have to strip it to bare metal & repaint it. 1957 Chevrolet 1/2-ton Stepside LB in the Gallery My Photobucket shots The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873) | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 | Good luck with that 57 Alan. This is a good website for a project like that. Hope you made a killing selling that boat and it was a yacht. I am kidding with you but you do have a job ahead of you. Enjoy and I cant wait to see it when you are done.
Bob K | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 688 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 688 | Bob, You need a De-Humidified Heater/Defroster.. www.classicautoair.com check them out.. thats who I used. Cliff59 | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 23 | Cliff,
Thanks. I assume you called the TX branch. I did talk to them and sent them an email too. I spoke with Brady. He suggested I put in A/C with heater, but at this point still looking to keep it orig with heater and make the one I have work. He was of the same opinion as others though that maybe I don't have a port or source for the heater to draw air. Also said I need to ck and see if motor is rotating fan in correct direction. I will ck both this weekend. Thanks,
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