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Chris
1956 Chevrolet 4400 1959 Chevrolet Viking 60 1968 Chevrolet el Camino 2002 Chevrolet 1500HD 4x4
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | glamis4X4,
I have seen that tag, but only remember seeing it on cars!
Stuart | | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | Same here. The only trucks I know of with that tag is the El Camino.
Bill Burmeister | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Fisher didn't make truck bodies
Bill | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 62 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 62 | What year did they last produce body by fisher for GM. I never heard of Fisher before this post, a true sign of my ignorance yes but, sounds like an industry leader in their time, where should I look for their tags on a GM car?
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| | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | I've seen Fisher tags on cars up into the mid '80s. I'd say the last "true" Fisher bodied car was built in the 30s, as GM bought them out about that time and they became an in house body maker.
Bill Burmeister | | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Truckstein,
In my minds eye, I see the little carriage logo in the middle of the carpet trim piece (aluminum?) above the rocker panel.
Stuart | | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | That's the one, Stuart! That carriage was the logo of the original Fisher Brotthers Custom Body Co. At one time, in order to get a scholership from GM to be a designer, part of the entrance exam was to build a scale model of that carriage, along with a concept car of your choice. They were very particular with the carriage in appearance and build quality. That alone weeded out alot of the applicants to ensure that only the best got the scholerships.
Bill Burmeister | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Fisher Body was originally a seperate company that GM early on bought majority ownership of, and by about 1930 they bought it all and made it a division of GM - I think GM quit tagging stuff 'Fisher' in the 70's, and in 83[?] Buick and Fisher Body were joined in one plant ... Fisher Body Division was closed in 84 Bill | | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | Impalas were still carrying the fisher tag (door tag) at least to '84. I've seen many of those around here.
Bill Burmeister | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 339 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 339 | The group I was in at GM Engineering was transferred to Fisher Body Headquarters around 1990..The Fisher Employee's all remained, We were designated CPC (Chevrolet, Pontiac, Cadillac) Robots came in by the hundreds, and many body styles were fabricated there..Yet, the cars were all prototype..The bare car bodies were then shipped to Our Department where the body was washed down with a solvent, then sprayed inside and out with a product similar to oilsum, then pushed in a bondarizer which puts the body through a 8 step process rinsing, and washing with several different chemicals...when done, the body is baked at 350 degree's for 30 minutes..From there its primed using two 30 gal pressure pots...The body after priming is pulled out of prime area into an infra-red oven to dry...after sanding lightly it goes into spray booth for 2 coats of hi-solid enamel and 2 coats of clear...Baked at 375 degree's...Bill B. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 162 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 162 | Thanks guys. In another thread i started about trim codes on a 56, someone posted a link to a body by fisher tag, simmular to those found on the passenger side firewall under the hood of GM cars, like on my elcamino. All the vehicle's trim codes and options are listed on this tag. So If trucks dont have this tag, is all the truck's info stamped on the door post data plate? Im still stumped on what trim 234N means.
Chris
1956 Chevrolet 4400 1959 Chevrolet Viking 60 1968 Chevrolet el Camino 2002 Chevrolet 1500HD 4x4
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Chris, I think I was the one that linked a pic of the tag from Kieths old Chevy manual site - not a "body by Fisher" tag per se, though earlier ones did have that phrase on them - really just a 'body tag' from 'the Chevrolet Division', and yes on most they are either under the hood on the firewall or lower on the door pillar, seperate from the plate commonly called the vin plate, and different than what might be called a 'data tag', which would have GVW and HP on it - wouldn't be a suprise if the tag is missing, same as some trucks missing vin tags
Bill | | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 324 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 324 | Originally posted by red58: Fisher Body was originally a seperate company that GM early on bought majority ownership of, and by about 1930 they bought it all and made it a division of GM - I think GM quit tagging stuff 'Fisher' in the 70's, and in 83[?] Buick and Fisher Body were joined in one plant ... Fisher Body Division was closed in 84
Bill This is a good link, thanks Bill.
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | Does anyone have a body/trim tag for a 1956 truck that they could post for Chris? The "tocmp" tag shown in the link by Bill (red58) is a 1951 "Body by Fisher" tag for an automobile. Does anyone have a 1956 Truck Data Book or a 1956 Truck Restoration pack Specifications Manual with RPO codes? As stated in the other thread , RPO 234 referred to Exterior Color though at least the first half of 1955. The "N" in 234 referred to Ocean Green exterior color. Trucks up to 1955-1st did not have trim codes, so the RPO codes (234 and N) might have changed meanings in late 1955. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 162 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 162 | I have the resto pack from GM. I think they forgot a couple pages of the RPO codes. Here is a link to my <a href="http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/glamis4x4/Picture310.jpg">TAG</a>
Chris
1956 Chevrolet 4400 1959 Chevrolet Viking 60 1968 Chevrolet el Camino 2002 Chevrolet 1500HD 4x4
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Canadian trim tag from a 57 short step [model 1314], top center of cowl - data plate from my US built 58 , which didn't have a trim tag, and appears to never have had one - can't find any pics of trim tags from other trucks I've had Bill | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | similar being the key word Photo ... the Canadian tags are similar, but different ... notice the US data plate I link above compared to the CDN one you have, and the US vin tag is a 1x3" plate that just has the vin number and the word "Chevrolet", no model or engine#
Bill | | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,682 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,682 | Yea, I haven't ever seen a Fisher body tag on any old truck.. i've seen a lot of them on GM cars in the '70's and early 80's.. on that aluminum looking strip about where you might put your foot getting into one of those cars.
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 162 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 162 | Did you gus see the link to my tag above? What do you think? It is a Los Angeles built truck. Any one else have a 56 from Los angeles that might have the same? The other trucks tags ive seen say "std" for the trim, but mine has that wierd "234N" that has me, and alot of you, stumped! :confused: 
Chris
1956 Chevrolet 4400 1959 Chevrolet Viking 60 1968 Chevrolet el Camino 2002 Chevrolet 1500HD 4x4
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