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#20441 11/29/2003 3:59 AM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 208 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 208 | I'll be replacing the distributor in the 216 in my '46 with a rebuilt one. Are there any particular do's & don't's here? Thanks in "advance", (pun intended). 
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#20442 11/29/2003 9:27 AM | Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21 | If you are new to doing this i would suggest that you start by locating number one cylinder wire on the cap. .remove cap ,see where it corresponds to the distributor . then mark distributor with chalk in the general local at this spot . remove the number one spark plug . with the coil wire off from the cap end and grounded( better even to remove the positive lead to the coil!),with the cap off now ,then tap the starter with a remote switch or cross with a screwdriver (for experts only,Ha)to turn the motor, with your thumb on the plug hole until you feel the compression in the cylinder push your thumb. then turn the motor by hand ,watching the rotor until it reachs the exact point where the #1 wire is. check for the timing mark,just to see if all is ok with your motor and for reference later if you goof this up!! .are these on the flywheel? ,im not sure,then remove the holddown bolt for the distributor ,remove carefully pulling straight up ,watching how it comes out and install the new one exactly the same . it may not go down flush to seat completely but it will engage in the camshaft . tapping the starter motor again slowly it should drop into place ,once it has lined up with the oil pump. this is the basic method for most motors but i haven't done a six in years .time accordingly and enjoy!
cliff 39 chevy suburban w/250-6cyl "Valve in head means ahead in value"
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#20443 11/29/2003 4:27 PM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 | I have wondered this before about some valve adjustment instructions too. If you have the distributor pointing at wire #1 and the flywheel timing ball is lined up, then why do the finger on the sparkplug hole trick? Isn't it already on the firing stroke?
54 3100 with 235 62 flatbed dump C60 with 261
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#20444 11/29/2003 4:50 PM | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 504 Member | | Member Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 504 | The ball lines up with the pointer twice on each cycle. If you don't put your finger on the spark plug hole, you could drop the distributor in with the engine 180 degrees off the TDC..
I like to use the procedure in the service manual and watch the # 1 intake valve rise up ( close ) then continue spinning the flywheel until the ball lines up with the pin.
Whatever works..
Bill M 53 GMC Hydra-Matic
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#20445 11/29/2003 5:47 PM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 | Ok, but what I never understood is that the distributor turns twice as well?
I would have lined up the ball on the flywheel with the distributor pointing at #1. Take the old distributor out and replace with the new one without moving the engine. Is this not correct?
Your procedure is correct ofcourse if the engine has been moved for any reason, but why would you to just replace the distributor?
54 3100 with 235 62 flatbed dump C60 with 261
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#20446 11/29/2003 6:14 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Tony M,
"I would have lined up the ball on the flywheel with the distributor pointing at #1. Take the old distributor out and replace with the new one without moving the engine. Is this not correct?"
What you describe works for me every time.
"Ok, but what I never understood is that the distributor turns twice as well?"
The distributor turns one full revolution for two full revolutions of the crankshaft (the timing gear at the end of the camshaft takes care of this reduction).
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#20447 11/29/2003 6:32 PM | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 504 Member | | Member Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 504 | So tell me Tony M, did you learn something here or are you still resisting the facts ?
Bill M 53 GMC Hydra-Matic
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#20448 11/29/2003 7:14 PM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 | Well, I was hoping you learned not to move the engine when replacing the distributor. It seemed you guys were saying the distributor could be pointing at #1 and not be on a firing stroke. I thought this was incorrect. So, it seemed to me the finger on the sparkplug hole was unnecessary when just replacing the distributor. Unless it was broken ofcourse. If you don't put your finger on the spark plug hole, you could drop the distributor in with the engine 180 degrees off the TDC.. So, I guess we confirmed what I knew.
54 3100 with 235 62 flatbed dump C60 with 261
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#20449 11/29/2003 8:02 PM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 215 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 215 | will a engine evan run whith engine 180 off TDC? :confused: would be funny if all tonyMs trucks were driving around whith timeing 180 off  | | |
#20450 11/29/2003 8:21 PM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 346 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 346 | Nope engine won't run with distributor in half a turn off. When I was in high school, I pulled the 265 in my '55 hardtop and had it rebuilt. When I went to install it in the car, I didn't put my finger in the spark plug hole and got the distributor in 180 deg off. I was working on a dairy farm after school and I was doing the work in the machine shed. When I got ready to start it, it kinda popped but not much else. Well with pickup handy, we decided to give it a push down the road since the battery was pretty close to dead. For some reason, I left the air cleaner off during this little exercise, probable because it was getting dark and I wanted it to run. We'll we got it out on the road and up to about 20 mph and I pulled the powerglide into drive. It promptly belched a pillar of flame about 6 feet high out of the 4-bbl. In the near darkness, it DID get my attention. Put a new wrinkle in the seat cover.. I had it towed to a shop the next day and got to pay real money for that lesson in how to install your distributor.
'38 Chevy 1-1/2 ton '49 Chevy 1/2 ton '54 Chevy 6400 2 ton '55.2 GMC 3/4 ton '56 GMC 1-ton
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#20451 11/29/2003 11:50 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 208 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 208 | Thanks for the advice...points well taken. This puts a cap on my questions, in a condensed format, too. I'll have to break from here now, 'cause No.1 is callin' out firing orders to me right now and if I don't keep my timing right, I just might hear a backfire! 
Union, Justice and Confidence
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#20452 11/30/2003 3:17 AM | Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21 | well i'll come back in on this . if you dont need to pull the valve cover and you want to be sure ,use the ol finger .i guess i forgot to say what someone else just said ,the mark comes up twice.i have done it wrong ,too in my earlier years and got a good laugh reading your tale of the flame.when things have been removed (timing gears ,distibutor ) it's always good to understand all the above . actually you could put the distributor in six ways and then just move the wires accordingly .always nice to know it was in right when you take it out!check the manual for the proper location of the cylinder wires
cliff 39 chevy suburban w/250-6cyl "Valve in head means ahead in value"
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#20453 11/30/2003 4:30 AM | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 44 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 44 | All of the above answers are correct especially if you do not have a distributor in the engine. If you are swapping a rebuilt one for the old one that is allready in the engine, why not just remove the cap and rotate the engine so that the rotor is pointing to a particular spot such as the fender or engine block, and then remove the distributor and replace in the exact position. You don't have to know TDC or exhaust/intake valve location, IF the engine was running before taking out the distributor. You will have to fine tune the engine after installation.
41 Chev 2dr coupe 51 3100 w/a 261 11 Camaro RS ragtop
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