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#196030 12/22/2005 8:53 PM
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Still working on a shop plan. New idea to consider, 28' x 40' barn. Two 10' wide doors going in the end. 12' ceiling on first floor. 8' ceiling on second floor (loft). 4' x 4' trap door to loft with winch hoist to move heavy items up and down (motors, trannys...maybe bigger for cabs). The ground level would be for repairs, assembly and chassis work. The loft for motors, fenders, body work (maybe cabs ?), painting.....???

This plan cuts down on foundation cost and roof size. It is going in an old farm field and will look good. Something like this...
http://www.cadsmith.com/garage_photos/gambrel_3/gambrel_3.htm

What say you???

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#196031 12/22/2005 9:16 PM
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Sounds terrific... And the idea of radiant heat in the floor would be welcomed in your neck of the woods I'm sure!!


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Buddy,

What a deal..a dream shop. This would be especially nice if it fits the farm architecture on your site. Does your area have strict seismic requirements..would this building meet them?

Stuart

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No special req. just need to drill to make sure there is no permafrost where you want to build. Has to be approved by the subdivision developer, don't think it will be a problem as it will fit the area. The neighbors horses might want to move from their little lean-to shed to my place.

Just got a call from "She Who Matters Most", I said hello and she said YES. She likes the idea.

Merry Trucking to All ! ! !

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Cool! Making shop plans is almost as much fun as making a shop...

I expect to have a permit to build mine sometime in January and will break ground soon afterward.

I'm building a double garage with an RV stall next to it. 24 x 28 and 14 x 36. The idea was a workable shop that will look like it belongs in the neighborhood, and the RV stall makes that work, plus it lets me get one of my big bolts all the way inside.

Mine should be done in the spring. I hope.


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#196035 12/23/2005 12:44 AM
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Man, that would make for a nice shop. We started on our shop in june and are doing sheetrock now, we are gonna start moving in on New Years Day. It is a 32x54 with two 10' roll up doors in front, inside it has an office, parts room, and air compressor room. We drew plans for 10 years and recently got to where we could afford to build it, so we are anxious to move in.

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My wife will be happy to get my funny shop smells out of the house garage. Hhauler...I'm also thinking about a room for the furnace and air compressor, it will keep them clean and quiet. I look forward to seeing your shops up. Good Luck...

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#196037 12/23/2005 4:29 AM
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Radiant floor heat...mmmmmmmm! I'm looking at ceiling-mounted radiant gas heat units right now, but with the price of natural gas right now, I may just stick with my 35K BTU catalytic space heater - goes under the truck nicely for those repairs that are non-fuel related.


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Buddy,

That is one sharp shop. The floor plan looks like you wont ever have to sleep in the dog house. If you spend too much money or attention on your trucks and not your wife you will be comfortable in the shop with the radiant floor heat.

I am in the planning stages for my shop in Maine. I currently have a small 2 car garage in Wakefield which requires me to store many parts in my basemant. My wife hates the old truck smell in the laundry room.

The plan for Maine is a few years off but we are talking 24x40 with 12 foot walls to create a storage loft in the back half and an overhead hoisting system in the front half for cab, engines removals and such. It will be attached to the house by a breezeway. I like your idea of radiant floor heat.

Good luck with your shop! Keep us posted on the progress.

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Make sure you have room for the pinball machine, the soda machine, and the jukebox.. you'll also want to reserve enough floor space for a firemans pole between the loft and the ground floor.


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That sure is a nice shop (shop envy) lol Im still in the planning stages myself but I sure like the barn style shop big enough and tall enough. It would go good with an late 1800s or early 1900s two story stick house. I would back half the top for storage and use the front for pool/football room . Enjoy your shop Buddy.

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The gambrel roof style would make one mighty fine looking AD age appropriate building.

When and IF I ever build is to have piping within the floors and use a heated fluid system. The unit to heat the water will be outside and away from the building.

By using this type of heating system solvents, adhesives, gasoline, etc. with flammable vapors can be used even in winter with relative safety. With heated fluid even solar assist is very doable.

Don't forget to allow for vent fans to expell paint vapors, etc., and perhaps fresh air intakes with filters for a paint room.

Can you say?---"I want it all!!!!"


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I like the detached shop Idea and I am limited on space only a 1/4 acre (thats small for texas). So I really like the idea of the two story floor plan. However I do not need the radiant heat, but an air conditioner would be nice. I wish I wish it were christmas "AGAIN"

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my 22 year old son loves the gambrel roof one, He wants me to build it in our back yard so he can live on the second floor, and work on his vehicles on the first floor. Wow to be 22 again!!

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Love it! We are looking at similar plans. I have a disabled sibling and someday, Mom and Dad will not be able to house her any more, so we thought she could have her "own" apartment above and we could get our auxillary shop space below.


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#196045 12/27/2005 8:32 PM
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Here's how I approached that problem, Kimberly

Stealth Shop Residence


Larry Kephart
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Boca Raton, Florida
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Larry gave his Stealth Shop the urban ambiance - I hadta give my Stealth Residence a commercial ambiance - I think of it as a 550 sq ft residence with a 3000 sq ft basement grin

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#196047 12/28/2005 12:52 PM
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Hey Laroke, I used to live in Plantation Fl and I am thinking that even in places like "KISSIMMEE"
where land can be reasonable,building the Stealth Shop Residence, you will be looking at least $200,000
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Sadly, more than that now, Cliff. With the pressure of the hurricanes and red China on the costs of building materials and the real estate feeding frenzy that is just starting to ease off, "Median" price of a single-family home reached $340,000 in south Florida this year.


Larry Kephart
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2017 Cadillac ATS-V (Elvira)
Boca Raton, Florida
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well Larry I guess it had been a few years but WOW! thats a lot of cash! I guess one should build in some where like OAK HILL or ST.CLOUD.
Dont miss the hurricanes,(not the Miami kind) but I do miss the scenery.
Cliff59


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