Want to find a modern-day, 12 volt horn for my 52 3100 that would NOT make my truck sound like a modern-day truck... trying to preserve the sound of a stock 3100 while moving the horn(s) to the space between radiator and front grill. Got any ideas? Thanks.
I bought a pair (hi and low tone) 12 volt plastic horns off the shelf at O'Reillys 13 years ago. They sound like American horns from the late 50s through 80s.
The wiring scheme for your original horn was always on battery voltage to one terminal on the horn. A wire connected to the other terminal ran back up through the steering column and connected to the horn switch in the steering wheel. When the horn button was pushed it supplied a ground and the horn made noise.
More modern cars/trucks did it this way instead. Always on battery voltage was connected to one terminal on a horn relay (usually mounted on the engine side of the firewall). A second terminal on the relay connected to the horn(s) which had a ground supplied by the mounting bracket (some had a separate ground wire). A wire connected to the third terminal on the relay ran up through the steering column to the horn switch in the steering wheel. When the horn button was pushed it supplied a ground for the relay. The relay pulled in and supplied voltage to the horn(s) making noise.
Here is the relay I used. Horns like this should work.
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
Didn't the '52 3100 have a single horn mounted on the exhaust manifold like the one below? If so, the dual tone horns described by Bill and me absolutely will NOT sound like the original single tone Chevy horn pictured below.
The original horn is closer in sound to a 60s-70s VW Beetle horn. So if you want a stock horn sound, the dual tone snail horns aren't it.
If you want the dual tone sound and have a Pull-A-Part or similar junk yard near you, Ford F-150 horns (hi and lo) from the 1970s through the 1990s have the old car sound like Bill describes. They are snail horns and are made in metal and plastic depending on the year truck you find. The sound is identical, however.
The plastic horns that Bill has are available brand new anywhere for about $20/pair so if that's the sound you want, check ebay.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Bill and Otto... thanks for the perspectives and pointers. The original horn I had was just like Otto's picture. I donated it to another Stovebolter. I happen to have a 69 VW (unregistered at the moment), so when the weather improves, I will uncover it and remind myself of what it sounds like. If not loud enough, I will be off to O'Reilly's!!
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
I still have your horn if you want it back. I don't need it and haven't found anyone yet who needs one to give it to. I'll even check to see if it works and strip the red paint off of it and paint it black for you. It will likely fit between the radiator and the front grill.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
Carl; Thanks for the offer, however, I wanna go much more compact than the original. I am sure that ole horn will someday find a good home with another originalist like you!
I just completed the wiring on my 47 AD truck to 12v and the original horn was sounding horrible. I installed the regulator two days ago and it brought the horn back to its original sound. Works instant and keeps that classic feel.
I don't understand what the "regulator" is used for on your truck. The specs say that it reduces 18 to 60 volts DC down to 12 volts DC at a maximum of 20 amps.
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
Might be the selection on the link I posted. Here is the description
DC/DC Voltage Reducer Converter Regulator 12V 24V Step Down to 5V 20A 100W, Converter Regulator Power Supply Module Buck Transformer for Golf Cart Forklifts Car Vehicle, Aluminum
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.