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I'm sick and tired of them hammering our site with innumerable bots and slowing performance to a crawl. Each time I blocked a subnet, they just moved to another subnet. So now, their entire network is blocked. And performance of the site instantaneously improved.


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The number of anonymous users also dropped drastically, from 1100+ to around 350 at last count.

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Thanks Paul!!!


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Back up to 1645 guests right now. Dang Chinese!

Doesn't seem real slow though. ohwell

A random sampling of IP addresses for guests seem to be from US locations. Maybe guests not getting frustrated by being blocked by the Alibaba crowd.
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Here's the top ten hosts in the logs. The first number is the number of log entires followed by the IP address.
783 136.35.144.129 - this one is Google Fiber
427 107.77.214.174 - this one is AT&T
404 47.79.199.148 - The rest are all Alibaba.
404 47.79.196.111
386 47.79.214.126
381 47.79.202.152
369 47.79.192.52
367 47.79.200.159
365 47.79.207.101
359 47.79.214.232


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Thanks you Paul!!!

I stayed off after this mornings dragging on and on and on. Initial page loading coming back this afternoon, sign in and everything is going at normal speed. Guest count currently showing around 185. smile

Can't say it enough - Your Support is Greatly Appreciated Sir!!! shake


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It was so slow yesterday and this morning. But we also had some power outage last evening so it was hard to tell which was which. Except this morning. Other websites were humming along and Stovebolt was so slow, like Dan, I had to give us.

See great now. Thanks Paul.


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Well, when I see the traffic increase by 10 times the normal amount, I know something is going on. And it always turns out to be these guys, so they're gone for good now.


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Big improvement. Thanks. Maybe we should block Huawei as well. 146.174.0.0/16


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Last night (Saturday) I tried getting on the site and it was so slow I finally gave up. Worked fine tonight.


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Just me, but I would 2nd Gord's suggestion on Huawei. They are often just as bad as Alibaba has been. Grrrrr!!!


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Just an FYI that this morning after signing in with only about 500 or so guests shown on line, the number quickly jumped to over 1,600. A quick check of the "guest" list shows at the moment of my screenshot below, there were 658 "guests" from ASN 45899 with IPs beginning with "14.". A further random check of guest IPs showed the following IP groups: 113, 123, 203 and 222 all coming from ASN 45899 which is listed as "ISP:Vietnam Posts and Telecommunications Group". Many more guests on the list in these other IP groups.

Things seem to be at normal speed, even with these "guests", so not sure if they are a similar issue to be concerned about like Alibaba or Huawei???

Just offering information in the hopes of keeping things running fast and smooth.

Edit Note: A random "whatsmyipaddress" IP check of 20 different "14." IPs all show as being "Blacklisted" for spam activity on 2 different spam checking lists.
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Here's today's top ten:
2503 199.47.82.20 - Turnitin LLC
2492 136.35.144.129 - Google Fiber Inc.
1295 66.249.73.5 - Google LLC (GOGL)
784 207.193.207.96 - AT&T Enterprises, LLC
650 166.166.161.132 - Verizon Business
641 66.249.73.6 - Google LLC
632 104.173.80.3 - Charter Communications Inc
609 136.36.182.189 - Google Fiber Inc.
528 67.248.197.51 - Charter Communications Inc
516 47.79.203.251 - Alibaba Cloud LLC

Note that the last one is an Alibaba address. Even though they're blocked, this one still made it to the top ten. (The logs cover several days of traffic.) As you can see, Google consumes a lot of our bandwidth, but cutting them off would be unwise. I'll have to research Turnitin. Not sure what that is. But they have a ton of entries, so they bear some scrutiny.


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Turnitin is an application used in higher education to detect plagiarism and ensure original work is created while upholding integrity in academic pursuits. See Turnitinhttps://www.turnitin.com/

Unsure why Turnitin is lingering around in Stovebolt...


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Well, glad to see that it's not slow all the time.


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If Paul blocked Alibaba, how are they still getting access?

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Originally Posted by UtahYork
If Paul blocked Alibaba, how are they still getting access?
They're not. The logs contain multiple days worth of entries. They only showed up on the second day because they exceeded almost every other IP in their accesses. Here's today's top ten. You'll notice that Alibaba is not among them.

3279 136.35.144.129 - Google Fiber Inc
2503 199.47.82.21 - Turnitin LLC
2503 199.47.82.20 - Turnitin LLC
1295 66.249.73.5 - Google LLC
1218 207.193.207.96 - AT&T Enterprises, LLC
1068 57.140.28.59 - MENLO SECURITY INC.
951 104.173.80.3 - Charter Communications Inc
925 67.248.197.51 - Charter Communications Inc
917 136.36.182.189 - Google Fiber Inc.
878 50.103.198.242 - Frontier Communications of America, Inc.

What this should tell you is that at least half of the traffic to any website on the internet comes from professional internet companies probing sites for various reasons, not from the legitimate traffic of users accessing the site. Google, should be obvious. Turnitin is a plagiarism monitoring site. Menlo Security is a web security company.

Between the professionals, the scammers, and the hackers, probably two-thirds of the traffic on the internet is not consumers. Maybe more. And our servers have to deal with all of that crap and still provide you with a decent experience, or you'll stop coming.


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Maybe Turnitin thinks Deve is still hanging out here?


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Originally Posted by baldeagle
... And our servers have to deal with all of that crap and still provide you with a decent experience, or you'll stop coming.

Indeed.


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