Drive the lugs out. You will need to replace them anyway.
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Youngster, this would also be a great time to upgrade to tapered roller bearings. Tapered bearings can handle a lot more side load than the original ball type.
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Do you think the lug studs are attaching them. Tried pressing them out in a vise but they don’t seem to move. Maybe a press will work better. I do have new roller bearings, seals etc.
Your hub and drum looks to be earlier than 1952. Looks more like 1947-50 Huck front brake drums??? Check out this 2019 conversation with pictures that shows the same drum/hub setup you have. Guidance provided in that thread with a referral to the Shop manual on how to separate the hub and drum. Hope this is helpful.
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Thanks for the info. I am just going to order new hubs. I figure by the time I rework the old ones for my conversion I am better off just having everything new. I can save the old drum and hubs. Yes I do have huck brakes in the front. A lot of weird modifications made by previous owner. I think they thought all 47-54 parts are interchangeable. Most people don’t know there are differences over the years.
The lug studs are swaged into a tapered recess in the hub flange. There used to be a cutter we would use in a drill press to cut away the top of the lug stud and release the swage, and drive the studs out with an air hammer. If you don't have a swage cutter, it's possible to force the stud out with a press, but use some sort of support on the back side to prevent warping the hub flange. Jerry
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... and when you put everything back together don't use the factory specs for tightening the spindle nut (with ball bearings) with your new roller bearings.
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A lot of the Japanese compact pickups (Nissan, Toyota, Isuzu, Mazda, etc.) used the same 6 lug wheel bolt pattern as early Chevy pickups. It's fairly simple to adapt hubs and disc brakes from one of those vehicles to an early Chevy front spindle. Jerry
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I agree. I just had one of my front hubs off to replace a seal and repack the bearings and they are definitely different than your picture. The drum on '51 and later (Bendix brakes) attaches on the outside of the hub, but it appears that your brake drums are attached inside of the hub flange.
I like Jerry's suggestion. Toyota copied quite a bit of GM's parts, including the 235 engine (with some slight variations.)
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There are disc conversion kits offered by several aftermarket suppliers that use a 6 lug either 11" or 12" one piece rotors that come with tapered bearings. Some are configured to use stock wheels as well. Fred
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