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#1538163 02/26/2024 3:57 PM
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Has anyone located a good source for the front motor mount? Steele Products offers a re-vulcanizing service, but I haven't found a source f1or a New Replacement part.

https://www.steelerubber.com/motor-mount-service-70-1828-11

Last edited by Gdads51; 02/26/2024 4:25 PM. Reason: fix link to Steele web page

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Then and Now Automotive will also re-vulcanize your motor mounts. 781-335-8860 www.then-now.com

Last edited by Peggy M; 02/26/2024 4:27 PM.

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Craig, I did a bit of web snooping and couldn't find anything original or reproduction being offered now. I did find that The Filling Station also offers re-vulcanizing.

FWIW, the original part number for the 1960-62 235/261 single front engine mount is GM# 3763767.

I may have more info a little bit later when I can go sneak a peek at the 1962 235 I have stashed waiting to go into my 1951 3100. Will try to get back on that sometime later today. wink


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Thanks. I haven't come across any new or reproductions as yet. Several vendor offer a re-vulcanizing service, the original has some issues though.


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I had 2 of them rebuilt via The Filling Station a couple years ago, Steele is who does the actual rebonding.
Nice quality.


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Tuts... I have a vintage one in very good to excellent condition. Have the timing cover, too. PM me.


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Tuts...
If you like it, ask Miss Peggy how much she wants for it and send her a check. PM me your address.
Jethro.
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Yep, Me Likey A Lot... PM sent.


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'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

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Is that mount different than the front mount for an earlier truck…like the AD trucks?


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Yes. 1 piece construction. 1 bolt to the engine... 2 bolts to the frame. 1960 until the end of the 235. Scarce part.


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Looks like a much better design!


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Originally Posted by Phak1
Looks like a much better design!
Not sure how much better it really may be??? I have a 1962 235 from a farmers C20 I snagged awhile back that still had the front mount installed. That engine is waiting in the wings to be installed in my 1951 3100 to upgrade from the 1954 passenger car 235 currently in there.

Below are pictures of what a well worn but still mostly intact front mount looks like. Seems age and probably oil seepage from the front crankshaft seal has caused it to compress/squat under load. The upper leading edge actually has a groove rubbed into it from contact against the crank balancers edge.

This one is probably a candidate for re-vulcanizing. wink
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Same cushion used on many V8 in 60 - 62. Horseshoe shaped bracket bolts to frt of engine & mount cushion. I've got a C60 283 with that set up.


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Originally Posted by Gdads51
This one is probably a candidate for re-vulcanizing. wink
Send it off & get it re-bonded, it'll be like money in the bank!

Last edited by Peggy M; 02/27/2024 9:39 PM. Reason: fixed quote

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Do they revulcanize them with gold?

Yikes - just clicked that link and saw their price.

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I had the same problem, ended up Mcguyvering mine.

The two bottom bolts can be knocked out, I then drilled appropriate size holes in the rubber then welded two bolts to the top plate to run down through the rubber and out through the frame mount. There are little nubs on the to plate where bolts can be welded..
I used flat washers and a nut on each bolt but not so tight as to overly compress the rubber the added lock nuts to hold everything in place.
At least 15,000 miles on this set up so far without issue

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The cost will be long forgotten while the quality will be long remembered.

When buying parts for a 75 year old truck, I'm generally grateful that they are available at any price.


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Originally Posted by Otto Skorzeny
The cost will be long forgotten while the quality will be long remembered.

When buying parts for a 75 year old truck, I'm generally grateful that they are available at any price.


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Jethro saved the day. I will decide what to do with the other mount once I get replaced. I believe it is worth keeping.


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Phak1(Phil) didn't you repair the front mount on your Truck?


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'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

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Originally Posted by Otto Skorzeny
The cost will be long forgotten while the quality will be long remembered.

When buying parts for a 75 year old truck, I'm generally grateful that they are available at any price.

I would agree if we weren’t talking about $150 piece of rubber with a couple bolts in it.


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Originally Posted by TUTS 59
Phak1(Phil) didn't you repair the front mount on your Truck?

Yes, but it is the early AD style that is readily available from most vendors.


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True, but being in Canada and with the value of our dollar difference and with shipping fees and duties and timeline I opted for the Mcguyver system.
I have since purchased a rebuilt one through another bolter but have found no reason to switch them yet.
I'll hang onto it though as I still have my original 235 in inventory and would need the mount should I decide to do something with it.

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Educate me: Is that 1960-62 front mount specifically designed for the 1960s crossmember? Or is there something unique about the engine that needs that mount.

I guess what I’m really getting at…is the mount specific for the truck, or specific to the engine? For instance, I have a 1962 engine in a 1951 truck. I have always assumed my mount is the earlier style ….matched to the truck.

(All that said, I’d also assume one could adapt either mount to either the early or late engine)


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The front engine mount for the '60 - '62 is specific to that chassis using a 235. The difference is that while the earlier mount used 4 bolts on the lower portion, the '60 - '62 uses 2 studs. As far as the engine side is concerned, both mounts use the same holes on the engine block. The engine casting design was not changed to accommodate a new chassis design. As far as using a later model engine you would still need to deal with the side mount design, that started in '62 with the 230.

Last edited by TUTS 59; 02/28/2024 5:43 PM.

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Same mount use in trucks with 261 as well as V8.


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I have paid exactly zero attention to my front engine mount. Other than note that it’s oil soaked and probably needs attention someday. I’ll have to see what they did. I’d assume it’s an early mount bolted to a late engine.


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I received the front motor mount from Jethro. It's in great condition unlike the gummy, deteriorated original. I will hold on the the original and possibly have it re-vulcanized in the future. Thanks again to Jethro and the power of the "BOLT". thumbs_up
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'59 Apache 31, 327 V8 (0.030 over), Muncie M20 4 Speed, GM 10 Bolt Rear... long term project (30 years and counting)

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It looks like it's in the original box.


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