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I couldn't find this info on the sticky thread and it doesn't look like you can post to it anymore...

Can anyone tell me if the big 5 lug independent suspension (IFS) spindles/hubs are the same as the I-beam axle type?
If so that would be great as there would be more vehicles to choose from...but if I had to guess the answer is no, the type to find is from the I-beam.

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The trucks with the I beam front axle never came in 5 lug hubs. The P30 trucks all have 8 or 10 lug hubs.

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George, I thought the P30 had 5 front and 10 rear...am I wrong?

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I think there were both? I have a P30 with 16"wheels and it is an 8 lug. I had a P30 with 19.5" wheels and it was 5 and 10 if IIRC. I think someone posted once that they tried everything to replace 5 lug fronts on an I beam with something modern and never found a solution. So my guess is probably no...
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George, thats incorrect. I bought a P30 with the I beam type, with the big 5 lug axle...so P30's do come in both 5/10 lug or 8 lug.

Trying to understand the differences on the spindle/hub between IFS and I-beam...
If I had to guess the disc brake P30 swap only works if you find the I-beam type since it uses kingpins.
That makes sense anyway...
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Originally Posted by Mike B
George, I thought the P30 had 5 front and 10 rear...am I wrong?

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You are correct. The wheels are 10 hole but the front only uses 5 holes.

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I had a 1999 Chevy 3500hd rollback with a 15000 gvwr and it was 5 lugs in front on an ibeam with disk brakes. The rear was 10 lug with disk brakes also. Used the same wheel front and rear.

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the c3500hd front axle is very similar to the P30 front axle that are the I-beam type. But with the c3500hd axle the steering components are in front of the axle, while the P30 has the steering components behind the axle - which is how our old big bolt trucks have their steering. This is why Griggs recommends finding the I-beam P30 axles for disc brake swaps.

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My ‘55 GMC fitted P-3500 HD front disc brake hubs/spindles with tie rod behind axle easily without tires sticking out past the fenders, with new ($12.09) new king pin bushings.

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