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#1510888 07/28/2023 1:48 PM
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I’ve decided to buy a NOS AC 4149 and a rebuild kit from Then and Now and am looking for help removing the valves. I have experimented on the old Airtex one I took off with no luck. They look to be a press fit and I have not been able to budge them. Any insights from someone who has done this?


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The airtex one has screws holding it together or just clamped?


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Looks to be a press fit. No screws
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yes, press fit no screws.


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So can I just punch those out? This is a parts pump to practice on. How do I install the new valves without damaging them?


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You'll need to fabricate a fixture to push the check valves into the housing without putting any pressure anywhere except the outer edge. That shouldn't be much of a challenge for anyone with basic machining skills and the right tooling. An arbor press or just a heavy duty C clamp should be needed.
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Well that leaves me out. I have no fabrication/machining/tooling skills or equipment.


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Maybe try to find a small socket from a quarter inch set thats just right size to
chase those check valves in, with a c-clamp, as Jerry suggests.
Not too hard.


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Once you get the old ones knocked out, a socket the right size and a bench vise would probably work to push them back into the housing. Make sure they face the right direction so the flow is toward the carburetor- - - -they're both the same part, just a one way spring loaded valve. The tension of the spring provided in the rebuild kit controls the output pressure of the pump.
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Thanks to you both for the info. Probably going to be next weekend before everything gets here, I will post an update then.


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What is included in the rebuild kit, and what does it cost? I'm tempted to buy one, and fabricate the tooling needed to install the check valves as a demonstration project. I have a sneaky suspicion an ammunition reloading press could be adapted to install those check valves, once the fixtures are fabricated.

www.ebay.com/itm/314674075134?

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Cadillac fuel pumps that I've rebuilt in the past had similar valves. They just pressed in by hand and then were staked around the edge to keep from popping out per the shop manual.


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Make sure to take note of inlet and outlet orientation. Do one at a time.


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1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)

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