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#1502581 05/28/2023 4:02 PM
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OMG! Another points question? Here, let me get to the point real quick like grin

According to my shop manual when installing new points, the gap should be set between .018" -.024" Is there a performance preference to lean towards the smaller vs larger gap?

Craig


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The narrower gap results in more "points closed" time and gives better coil saturation for a hotter spark, supposedly. .020" is a good midrange setting and it's easy to remember. Try to use a round wire gauge, rather than a flat blade if possible. Any roughness on the surface of the points will result in getting a wider gap than the gauge indicates, and a round wire gauge like the old style pocket spark plug gappers also worked well for points.

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Thank you Jerry. The only wire gauge set I have is missing the .020" gauge. Go figure. So I ordered one of the above via Flea Bay.


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Jerry, I know at one point, you posted dwell settings for the various Stovebolt distributors. Would you happen to have that info handy? I promise I’ll write it down this time.


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My Chilton repair manual lists 1954 and earlier distributors with 6 volt ignition at .015" point gap or 42 degrees of dwell. 55-63 12 volt systems are listed at .019" and 30-32 degrees of dwell.

Now, in about 3-2-1 seconds, some Google guru will tell you I'm all wet and quote all sorts of distributor part numbers and factory specs to prove it. I have a comment about them that's not PC Patrol friendly!
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Jerry, I'm not saying you're all wet, but I'd trust the manufacturer more than Chilton. Here's a page from the 48-51 Service Manual, showing readjusting at 0.018" and new points at 0.022".
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Setting point gap with a feeler gauge is a good example of the "measure with a micrometer- - - -mark with chalk- - - -cut with an axe" concept. Using a dwell meter is a much better method of setting the distributor. A dwell meter is simply a glorified voltmeter, a way of measuring an average of the voltage available at the points during the "points open" and "points closed" situations. That gets into a very theoretical discussion that's been done several times already, one that makes all but a very few stovebolters' eves glaze over.
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Call me a weirdo, but I greatly prefer the dwell meter to the feeler gauge method. I find the feeler gauge clumsy and I never have much confidence that it got it right.

The dwell meter is also a quick and easy way to verify that my points gap is still somewhat in spec.


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Dwell meter......hmmmmm Better check my stash of meters.


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Just dwelling on dwell. wink
I don't think dwell vs gap is a linear function. Number of cylinders, distributor cam profile and a bunch of other stuff factor in. So Jerry's .015" - 42 degrees dwell for 6 volt and .019" and 30-32 degrees dwell can't really be extrapolated.


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