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#1491859 03/13/2023 11:20 AM
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Hello,
I am planning to rescue my recently acquired ‘51 3/4 ton within the next couple of weeks. It has been mounted on pylons on a water feature pond for several years. I am still developing a plan to get it off of its mount. I’m trying to get an idea of what the weight might be. Basically the firewall forward is bare under the hood. There is no engine, transmission, or driveshaft. There is also no bed wood and no seat. Otherwise the rest of it is pretty much there. Any thoughts on about what the weight might be?
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I have weighed my 49 3600 complete at 4000 lbs. I have also weighed the engine and trans while removed at 900lbs. I would guess that your 51 would be somewhere around 3000lbs

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Ok, great. Thanks!

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The specs are listed in the shop manual as well as the data plate on the driver's door jamb.

1951 3/4 ton = GVW of 5800lbs with 17" tires. subtract payload of 1500lbs = 4300lbs less drive train of ~1000lbs = 3300lbs

Do you have the drive train in the garage somewhere?

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Ok, thanks. I do have the drive train and have been going through it.
Thanks again for the help!

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Do you expect anymore cold weather there? Too bad you didn't get it while that water was frozen and you could just roll it across the ice ...


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Pulling it off of the ice was my plan. Usually we get a good few weeks of freezing temperatures here in Ohio. I was waiting for that to happen this year, but it just didn’t. Now that we are half way into March, I decided I need to come up with a plan.
Thanks for each of the responses. I’ll be sure to add some photos of the extraction!

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Here's a document (excerpted from the Vehicle Information Kit) that says the curb weight (ready to drive but empty) is 3650 lb. with 1995 lb on the front axle and 1655 lb on the rear axle. The bed wood and strips probably weigh no more than 100 lb, and the engine and transmission weigh a total of 640 lb (also per the vehicle info kit.) So subtracting those would say the at the front axle weight would be about 1350 lb and the rear axle about 1555 lb.
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It doesn't look too far from the bank. How about scrounging up some bridge planks and rolling it out. I wish you weren't so far away I'd like to help out with the rescue.

Let us know how it goes. Please take some pics.

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Thanks for the pdf. Very helpful! Those weights make a lot of sense.

It’s about 12’ from the front pylon to the bank. I could make up two “I” beams of sorts to span the 12’. I would then need to build 2 more 10 footers to span from the rear to the front. My concern is that the brakes will be locked up to the hubs. It’s been there for several years so I think it’s probably wishful thinking that it will roll. I thought about renting a SkyTrak lift, but I promised I wouldn’t tear up the yard. So, still thinking…

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Hello Wing,
Borrow/rent an all terrain forklift (JLG as some call them) come right up that blacktop drive. turn 90 degrees to truck, boom out to reach possibly to stay off grass, forks under chassis between tires, lift (paying attention to overhead wires), back up/boom in, place on trailer or were needed, begin restoration.

Just my 2 cents worth idea


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King Kielbasa means like this one. Very capable of lifting your truck off the pond.
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I third the offroad forklift idea. Only damage would be bent running boards, but that's an easy fix.

Just make sure the forks are long enough to handle the width of the truck. Could slip a couple pieces of longer rectangle tubing over the forks to help.


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Use suitable padded rope through cab doors, not windows, stay away from running boards, etc.

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I looked into renting one of those forklifts to move some machine tools off a trailer and into my shop. The local rental place wanted $700.00 A DAY for one, plus a pickup/delivery fee to get it to me!
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That's mostly why I suggested using bridge planks. Although, I do appreciate a good challenge.

If money is no object just rent a military style helicopter.

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Originally Posted by J Lucas
If money is no object just rent a military style helicopter.

LOL! We'd need to see the video of the Skycrane lifting that truck. yahoo


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