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Ethylene, propylene, organic, inorganic, silicates, long life, distilled/demineralized, non-distilled, bolt in zinc/magnesium anodes andwhatnot.

All I found is a ton of conflicting answers.

Some say propylene based doesn't kill your bearings, when it gets into the oil, but it kills your seals on older engines (also silicone form-a-gasket stuff).
Some say distilled/demineralized water is corrosive and eats your engine, others say tap water makes deposits and scaling, and that some instructions say to use distilled water.

Everybody says they did this or that for 150 years (pretty much every possible combination) and never had a problem at all,
than the mechanics chime in and tell stories about leaking disasters with a certain type of antifreeze, they had to fix all the time etc.

The information you can find online is also all over the place, it's a mess and most of the time a sales pitch.

so... what antifreeze you guys recommend for a 261 with a water heated aluminum intake and original radiator (brass parts).

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I try to run the green slimy glycol stuff as originally spec’d. Not because it’s the “best,” but that all the other coolant options and their specific applications/limitations….makes my head hurt.

Curious what others here might say. I’ve done a fair bit of geeking out on engine oils. Haven’t invested any mental energy into coolant.


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I mix the Prestone concentrate to yield 50/50. Don't buy the premixed 50/50. You would pay an incredible amount for water.

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I'm with Wally. Never had a problem.


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Originally Posted by Wally / Montana
I mix the Prestone concentrate to yield 50/50. Don't buy the premixed 50/50. You would pay an incredible amount for water.
How true, I have never ever bought it premixed. Good old green prestone, in the old stuff and some new stuff as well.


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Ethylene Glycol - the old standby - in every vehicle I own. I mix it 50/50 with distilled water. Brand name doesn't matter.

If you have hard water where you live, never mix it with tap water.

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FWIW-my Dad had a '51 Chevy car with the 216. All he ever ran in that car was Prestone mixed with well water. When he shut it down in'61, it had well over 100,000 miles on it and had never had any problems with the cooling system. Having said that, my thinking is like the old cowboy at the dance hall---ya gotta dance with the one what brung ya!

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Thanks guys.

I also found this Q&A very interesting (when you want to go down the coolant rabbit hole)

https://www.no-rosion.com/tech_coolant.htm

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Your owners' manual for your 1941 Chevrolet Sedan (see attached picture).
Obviously the technology of antifreeze design has improved since then.
Your country will have it's own laws about the composition of coolant allowed.
Any recommendation you receive from this website (Stovebolt.com) may not apply for use in Germany.
It is your responsibility to investigate for yourself.
We at Stovebolt care but we can only give information on what is allowed in the USA.

I found this on a website. It has merit but it's also funny. A designer antifreeze:

Best Antifreeze for All Vehicles: Preston All Vehicles Antifreeze/Coolant
Best for Asian Vehicles: Peak Original Equipment Technology Antifreeze
Best for GM-Approved Vehicles: Prestone DEX-COOL Antifreeze/Coolant
Best for BMW Owners: BMW Antifreeze
Best Affordable Antifreeze: Super Tech 50/50 Antifreeze Pre-Mix
Best Permanent Coolant Leak Repair: K-Seal ST5501 Multi-Purpose Antifreeze
Best Winter Antifreeze for RV and Marine: Super Tech RV and Marine Antifreeze
Best for Toyota Cooling System: Toyota Long Life Antifreeze Coolant
Best for Honda Engines: Honda Genuine Coolant
Best Organic Acid Corrosion Inhibitor: Zerex Original Green Low Silicate
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1941 Chevrolet Car Antifreeze.jpg (47.9 KB, 91 downloads)

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Otto,

Distilled water? Or deionized?


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Distilled. It removes all the minerals in the water which could cause scale or rust.

Here in Atlanta we have water that is on the soft side without a lot of mineral content so tap water is not too bad.

Distilled water costs about a dollar a gallon though, so I always buy it at the grocery store and mix it with the ethylene glycol concentrate at a 50/50 rate.

On old cars from the <20s - 30s, you're better off with pure water in the summer and water/alcohol mix in the winter. The cooling systems aren't pressurized and some don't have water pumps. The modern antifreeze is too viscous to flow properly so alcohol, is preferred as an antifreeze additive.


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Originally Posted by buoymaker
Any recommendation you receive from this website (Stovebolt.com) may not apply for use in Germany.
We at Stovebolt care but we can only give information on what is allowed in the USA.

Actually - besides our local brands - I can buy the same Prestone/Dexcool/Valvoline etc. stuff over here.
I don't think there are special/different rules for antifreeze.

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Certain formulations of antifreeze are toxic.
Some countries are strict about anything that can become an environmental hazard.


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Originally Posted by buoymaker
Certain formulations of antifreeze are toxic.
Some countries are strict about anything that can become an environmental hazard.
All ethylene glycol based antifreeze is toxic (makes a great mouse bait because it has a sweet smell and flavor.) Some places require a bittering agent.
Propylene glycol based antifreeze is not toxic.


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