I will begin to show how everything went. The first thing I did was build a she shed on to the side of my old shed. I pulled the cab off and then I removed the motor.
Ron - - Dusty53 1954 Chevy 3604 In the Gallery Forum "You can't dance with the Devil and then wonder why you're still in Hell." "They will forget what you've said, and they will forget what you have done but they will never forget the way you made them feel."
87GN , I have a question or two regarding the engine rebuild at the machine shop. Is/was it an option to have the block line bored for the mains and grinding the crank to eliminate the shims on the main caps? Similar question on grinding the rod journals on the crank , boring the rods to eliminate the shims? Thanks for sharing your progress.
Ron
Ron - - Dusty53 1954 Chevy 3604 In the Gallery Forum "You can't dance with the Devil and then wonder why you're still in Hell." "They will forget what you've said, and they will forget what you have done but they will never forget the way you made them feel."
Dusty53, good question, to line bore the mains on this engine would be alot less work if you compare it to the time spent adjusting the shims to achieve a match between the crank and the mains. If you line bore the mains a center line would have to be agreed on and then each bearing would have to be adjusted to accommodate the new diameter. Remember always shoot for the moon if you miss you land in the stars. There is a passion that drives me to achieve the things that are greater me. Hopfully these montras will help support my reasons for the seamingly endless attention to details. To the rod question, 10 thousand under rod bearings were purchased. We then installed them into the rods. Having previosly marked the side of the rods days before we measured each rod diameter with the bearings in. If they were within spec great if not the rod bearing was then conditioned. All the rods were conditioned.
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Thanks for the feedback. If I end up doing any rebuilding I doubt that I will do anything other than follow the Shop manual. I wanted to understand more about the options and you answered my questions. You know, its hard for me to get past the fact that these old engines just "keep going" and that although the methods for repair have been changed greatly by advances in machining and technology, the old methods produced some pretty solid results. I'll be following your progress and thanks again.
Ron
Ron - - Dusty53 1954 Chevy 3604 In the Gallery Forum "You can't dance with the Devil and then wonder why you're still in Hell." "They will forget what you've said, and they will forget what you have done but they will never forget the way you made them feel."
After milling was complete we washed both the block and head. Note finding a head that was'nt cracked was expensive. We got the new cam and bearings in and installed the crank along with the timing cover. I was able to purchase a NOS locking clip for those two special bolts, you know the ones that bolt inside out and hold the bottom of the timing cover.
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Why didn't you mod the timing cover bolt arrangement to work from the outside? Or is that a GMC only thing?
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
I know where to get the instructions on OldGMCtrucks forum, but you have to join to access the info. Instructions are likely available elsewhere, probably even here on Stovebolt if I knew where to look. Maybe someone who knows his way around the site can point us at it?? User name SlimSix posted the instructions on the GMC site. I know him from the GMC site and have just PM'd him asking for the instructions.
I re-read the instructions and the thread implies that same info works for Chevy 6s of the period. Should work because these front of the engine parts interchange between Chevy and GMC.
I could copy the instructions and e-mail them if we can't find them here.
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'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
Stovebolt Tech Tips. Go to the Tech Tip Engine section and scroll down to almost the bottom of Engine Tech Tips. You will find the instructions there. Good luck.
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Sweet's instructions are good, but the instructions that SlimSix posted are done with the engine removed and are more appropriate for 87GN's project.
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
Once the crank and cam were in it was time for the head to go on. Earlier I mentioned It was hard to find a good head. The original head was cracked in the combustion chamber. Check out the pictures. /'
My wife and I are retired and injoy road trips. We hadn’t been to New England yet so we loaded up the truck an headed north. Between the road trip north and my bout with the purchased head dubacal, I was still looking for a uncracked head. My internet search lead me to Chevy Supply of Assonet Massachussets. I called to ask if he had a good head he said yes I do. Well, you know what that means, Donna and I have added a stop to are New England ride. Long story short we meet the owner and he and some of his stovebolter's were picnicing by his large shop. He and I became good friends right away. He and some of his friends showed me around his coral of rare american classic's. He did show me 3 heads that were on a shelf with many other parts and he politly said to pick one. Whow, I was floating on air almost geety. I picked my head and he and I pulled it from the shelf. Mean while I saw a oil pan in much better shape than mine. Yes was all he said. Donna and I left with a smile on our faces. I knew why I was happy but I don't think Donna knew why she was smiling. Attached you will see a picture were I am shaving the outside diameter of the valve guide to accomodate the new seals.
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You will see 2 pictures one will be cleaned starter and generator. The second pictures shows the same parts except for one thing, I am learning to apply black oxide.
I have been working on the truck. My next couple of posts will be before and after pictures of the cab floor and all four corners. First 3 will be the cab floor.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
I will begine to show how everything went. The first thing I did was build a she shed on to the side of my old shed. I pulled the cab off and then I removed the motor.
First chance I had to look at your PJ in details. I really like the way you started the whole journey! A "she shed" ... that's very funny!
Looks like you are making great progress.
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Any helpful tips/hints on what you used to make the work less intimidating???
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
What Dan said. Chemical or mechanical rust stripping?
BTW, I changed your title a bit to add more information, making it easier for folks to find in a search.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
A blasting cabinet on everything except the motor. I used a wire wheel on a die grinder for the fan motor. I did take the motor apart to look for damage. None to be found. To clean and inspect the inside of the housing I had to remove the two rivets holding the brush mount plate. To reinstall the plate I used four sheet metal screws and applied a little epoxy on them.