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I would like to restore my 48 back to near orriginal. I am trying to find out where the dump bed controls need to be placed. I know there are two controls, one for the PTO activation and one for the Pump itself to lift the bed but don't know where the orriginal location is. It does not have levers or a large hole in the floor so I guess it is pull cable activated. There are some small screw holes in the floor between the seats. The guy I bought it from said the controls were located inbetween the seats but isn't the orriginal suppose to have a bench seat? The seats that are in it are not orriginal and I am hoping to put back a bench which would not allow access to where he said the controls were.

What say the expert bolters?

I don't think there's any right or wrong place to put these- whatever is the most convenient for you as the operator. Most of the ones I have seen are to the left of the steering column- kind of below the light switch. Just fasten them to the underside of the dash. But if you'd rather, you could put them on the other side, if it's more convenient. On one of my Internationals, they put them where the radio would have been- they used the holes for the radio knobs. The use of those cables gives you some flexibility in where you locate them.

Mine's 10 years later, but just like Rich said it's cable operated through an unused radio hole. See the big white "Muncie" knob at: http://flyingmelons.com/JDM/1958Chevy/DashCenter01.jpg

be advised this is not "factory" but only where the aftermarket builder put it back-in-the-day.

That white knob engages the PTO, the "T" knob to the right is throttle and the actual pump activation lever is outside at the back of the cab.

On the 53 I just got they are under the dash on to the left side of the steering wheel under the light switch.

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They were in the same place on my buddies 52 GMC.

Mongo

I don't think you'll find a "factory" installation of a PTO in an AD truck. Both the PTO and bed were after-market as far as I know. So the original location will vary with whoever installed the bed and PTO.

Am I right or Amarillo?

almost every farm truck i ever been in has had them like this. two black knobs on lower left of dash. outside one is pump inside one is pto. i worked for several farmers growing up and drove dozens of different grain truck. they are about all like this around here.

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I have driven many grain trucks and seen them in several locations. The most common location is to the left and below the steering column. I have also used some trucks that had them in the radio holes, and right of the steering column. I driven two Chevy grain trucks that had them on the floor between the seat and the door on the drivers side. I personally liked that location as it was natural to just reach down with your left hand and actuate the knobs while still being able to look in the mirror. Maybe it was just easier for me since I was only 11 years old at the time. These same trucks also had the fuel tank switch in that same location. They were an AD truck and my dads 63 grain truck.
Ralph

Every truck that I have seen in the junkyard with the cables in the radio holes has a cracked dash. I'd mount them someplace stronger.

I agree that the "standard" place seems to be on a piece of angle iron mounted under the dash to the left of the steering column.

I do have one grain truck that has them mounted vertically in the floor right behind the gearshift. I like that location on a working truck.

On my '53 winch truck the control is a lever in the floor to the left of the shifter.
On my '53 grain bed the PTO is operated by a cable mounted under the dash below the light switch and the up/down is a lever in the floor between the driver's legs.

Whether a truck had levers or cables depended upon the PTO supplied by the body builder. Back at the time of the truck in question the only option was levers. Push/pull cables didn't become available until the late 50's/early 60's. An easy way to tell is the lever units had a rod shifter with an eye bolt attachement for the floor lever controls. Hydraulic pumps of that ere were all lever controlled. PTO's made for cable shift came with a side plate that had a 3" or so long shift lever that the cable attached to with a Bowden pin.

For this truck I'd bet on levers and between or just in front of the seats was a normal location.
But, as always, after all these years anything could have been changed.

Do you know if the ones with levers can be converted to cables? My '47 has the levers, and I was thinking about converting it if possible, in order to get rid of the hole in the floor. It's about twice as big as it needs to be, and looks like it was put in with an axe!! I haven't spent a lot of time under the truck, to see how those levers are connected. That's on my list of things to check out when spring comes. Just wondering if anyone had any ideas.