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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 | OK guy's I have another question. Where is the 4.10 stamp on the carrier that says It is actually 4.10 gears?? Someone posted it, But I can't remember where I saw it.
Any help would be great
Elmo | | | | | Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 1,003 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 1,003 | Its Usually not that easy. But easy in a different form. Usually da teeth count is stamped on da ring gear. Devide one into da other and thats da answer. Or count da ring and pinion teeth yourself. Easy peasy.  | | | | | Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 | | | | | | Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 | But isn't it stamped on the housing or on the ring gear some where?? | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,802 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,802 | Somewhere on the circumference of the ring hear, the numbers 41-10 should be stamped- - - -41 tooth ring gear, 10 tooth pinion, which divides out to a 4.10:1 gear ratio. Other brands of gears (not GM) can have a 9-37 tooth count, for a 4.111111 ratio. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,214 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,214 | Somewhere stamped on the Carrier you will find the Identification Code. Example, a 1967 C20 with 4.11 ratio would be stamped "HW". Note these codes were not always the same year after year, so get the code and report back so we can help figure out what you have. The 4.11 ratio would have a tooth count of 37-9 (stamped on the ring gear)...37 divided by 9 = 4.11. Mike B  | | | | | Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 | I got one!!!! Finally! I found in Wausau Wisconsin. I had to go for a 2-1/2 hour drive yesterday. I am so stoked. And it only cost me 125.00 bucks. I could have gotten one in Iowa. But that would have been a 5 hours away.
ELMO!!! | | | | | Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 559 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 559 | 2.5hr cruise is well worth it. Best part is its a pretty easy upgrade. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 | I finally got the chance to switch out my 3rd member in my 53 3600 3/4 ton truck last week end.I got my 4.11 gears now!!!! Woot Woot. I took the truck for a spin last night. No more screaming down the road at 50 miles an hour. It was a great day. I am so stoked!!!
Elmo!!
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| | | | | Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 559 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 559 | Its a odd test drive. You know it’s different but its not a huge difference on paper or even seat of the pants but its just enough of a difference where it really does tame the rpm down. Im running a LS so mine can rev cross country at 5k if i wanted to without worry but i can see how on a old straight 6 it probably makes a much more noticeable difference. | | | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,723 24601 | | 24601 Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,723 | Barnfind -- in my case, before I reengined to the 261 ... the 4.10 upgrade with the 216 was incredible. But ... the poor 216 ran out of oompah. It could hold 65 until the slightest hill or bump came along. Or a slight head wind ... But on the flat, the 216-powered 3804 could hit 70 and cruise (mostly) at or above 60. It just had no power. the 261 fixed all that 
~ John A kid raised on Hotwheels, Matchbox and Tonka cannot be reasonably expected to own only one vehicle as an adult. 1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump1963 Kaiser M38A12001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | | Joined: Oct 2015 Posts: 406 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2015 Posts: 406 | I got one!!!! Finally! I found in Wausau Wisconsin. I had to go for a 2-1/2 hour drive yesterday. I am so stoked. And it only cost me 125.00 bucks. I could have gotten one in Iowa. But that would have been a 5 hours away.
ELMO!!! Elmo , what was the original rear end ratio . John
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 299 | Panel Fan, It is a stock 53 chevy 3600 3/4 ton. I believe the stock gears were 4.56! Something like that.
And I don't have a 216 I have a 235, I'm gonna take the truck out tomorrow after work and see how well it drives on the highway. Woot Woot!!!!
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 491 Unconventional Thinker | | Unconventional Thinker Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 491 | How did it do? I just discovered that I had a 4.11 3rd member in my possession all along. It was sitting under my parts truck tucked away inside the axle housing. If the bearings and everything check out, mine will be going from 4.57 to 4.11 in a week or two.
Shane
Shane's Toys... 2007 Forester XT Limited (2nd Owner) 1991 Cherokee Laredo (2nd Owner) 1981 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside 8,600 Camper Special (3rd Owner) 1965 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside (3rd Owner)
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 1,003 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2019 Posts: 1,003 | Lol. Its almost like the Gods of good stuff were smiling down on ya. I like finding stuff i forgot i have. I just wish i could find it when i needed it. Ha | | | | | Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 491 Unconventional Thinker | | Unconventional Thinker Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 491 | Lol. Its almost like the Gods of good stuff were smiling down on ya. I like finding stuff i forgot i have. I just wish i could find it when i needed it. Ha For sure! It was definitely a game-changing find. Now I am sourcing 14 bolt brake items so I can swap on 14 bolt brakes to the HO52 axle. HA! Find it when you need it, that is just not in the cards, it is always MIA when you need it, and then magically appears once you buy a new one or don't need it anymore...lol...
Shane
Shane's Toys... 2007 Forester XT Limited (2nd Owner) 1991 Cherokee Laredo (2nd Owner) 1981 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside 8,600 Camper Special (3rd Owner) 1965 Chevy 3/4 Ton Fleetside (3rd Owner)
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