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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 | I have a Chevy 48 Loadmaster 1 1/2 Ton dump Truck with a blown 235 engine. I have a GMC 270 moter in good shape, I would like to put the GMC moter in the chevy Truck. I know the motor block is 6 inches longer so I will need to move the radiator forward. The Big question is this will the GMC moter fit the chevy Bell housing & tranny???? What if I take the Moter & tranny out of the GMC and put it in the Chevy??????? will the drive shaft and PTO from the chevy fit in the GMC transmission???????????
Any suggestions would be Appreciated!
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If you poke around in the Tech Tips area of this web site I think you'll find a discussion of putting a GMC 302 in a Chevy pickup. The 270 and 302 are basically identical on the outside, so what you read there is correct for this swap too.
Basically the 270 should bolt to the bellhousing just fine.
The question about using the GMC bellhousing is more compicated. What year is it? '54 or later and the answer is different than if its '47 to '53. The issue is that the crossmember changed in '54.
You also have potential issues related to the foot starter if you are swapping to a motor that was 12-volt.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 | The moter is from a 1947 GMC 2 ton truck, this of course has the front engine mounts. Could I use the moter & tranny from the GMC 2 Ton truck and slip it under the hood? How about the linkage hooking up? For example PTO, Drive line, Cluch & ect. I noticed the GMC Moter is 6 inched longer than the chevy moter, will that work?
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | The GMC motor is longer and that does present some issues. Read the tech tip I referenced it will tell you most the details regarding length.
The PTO, clutch and driveline should all be easy. Tougher might be accelerator linkage, but if you can simply swap to the GMC stuff you should be fine.
There are some aspects of a '47 that are different than the '48 to '53 trucks and I'm not an expert on those details.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | Actually the GMC engine is a little over 2" longer. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 | Find someone to trade you a GMC engine for a Chevy. There's alot of people going "V-8" now days so finding a good 235 or 261 shouldn't be too tough. Just a thought, Scott | | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 21 | my '50 4400 now has a 270 in place of where the 235 used to be. This swap was done long before i got it though. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 4 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 4 | | | | | | Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 117 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 117 | My first question would be, Why do you want a 270 GMC? If you are thinking about repowering an older unit, repower it with a more modern engine. A '65 or later 292 would be a much better choice. With a little work on the head, a Clifford cam, HEI ignition and improved carburation the 292 will but out 300 HP. The 270 is two inches longer than a Chevy 6 and it is antiquated technology. Wm. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 117 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 117 | I put a GMC 270 into a '38 Chevy 2dr sdn in 1951, I had to relocate the front engine mount and move the radiator to the front of the core support. The Chevy bell housing bolted right up. Used a Chevy water pump, it was shorter.. That 38 Chevy was a rocket ship, it would out run anything in Eastern Idaho. Wm. | | | | | Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 362 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 362 | That 38 Chevy was a rocket ship, it would out run anything in Eastern Idaho. Did you just answer your first question? | | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,459 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,459 | Chevy 6 and it is antiquated technology. Wm. I thought that's what this site was about!
BC 1960 Chevy C10 driver 261 T5 4.10 dana 44 power loc 1949 GMC 250 project in waiting 1960 C60 pasture art Retired GM dealer tech. 1980 - 2022 | | | | | Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 117 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2019 Posts: 117 | Using a 270 GMC to replace a 216 was cutting edge technolgy in 1951. I know several people that are still in love with the Jimmy's for vintage racing applications, however, in dollars spent and the overall outcome, a late model 292 will win every time. I might be a little bias because I live in the Western US, I am use to traveling on roads connecting areas that are in many cases 100 mile plus apart. Back in the good ole days there usually was a service station/garage at least every thirty or do miles apart, that is not the case anymore.. Sign on #95 Nevada/Idaho.. Next Service 98 miles.. Wm. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,459 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,459 | U. I might be a little bias because I live in the Western US, I am use to traveling on roads connecting areas that are in many cases 100 mile plus apart.there usually was a service Sign on #95 Nevada/Idaho.. Next Service 98 miles.. Wm. Not sure how a 292 is going to help on the distance between gas stations over a 270. Some of us like old stuff, some of us also live out west & some of us also take long road trips in remote areas with old design engines.
BC 1960 Chevy C10 driver 261 T5 4.10 dana 44 power loc 1949 GMC 250 project in waiting 1960 C60 pasture art Retired GM dealer tech. 1980 - 2022 | | |
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