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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,652 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,652 | I have been using Brand Penn 10W30 (now called Penn Grade One) for 7 or 8 years now. Real Pennsylvania crude oil base, clings to the parts, especially the rockers over the winter, has a zinc package and a wear package compatible with our old motors, and seems to hold better pressure then the Pennzoil I use to use, at least from what I have experienced.
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 4,504 Moderator, Electrical Bay | | Moderator, Electrical Bay Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 4,504 | Valvoline VR-1 30 weight is what I use. You won't have winter weather to worry about in S. Florida, so 30 weight should be your friend. VR-1 also has extra zinc and holds pressure well in hot climates.
~ Jon 1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235 | T5 with 3.07 rear end
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 70 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 70 | I use Delo 30w, any of the diesel oils still have enough zinc in them to protect the cam and lifters.
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| | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 367 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 367 | Thanks for the input. Think I will go with the VR1 oil, like the zinc additive. But it looks to be hard to find in a 30 wt wonderif 10w30 would be ok. and yes we have had a light winter here still haven't put on the tire chains | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,847 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,847 | The VR-1 if it is truly a RACING oil, it won't have detergent, and yes 10w-30 is fine, I can't even believe anyone uses a straight weight oil, even Caterpillar has relented. And if you have a tight engine that doesn't leak a lot of oil, synthetic is more than fine, it is by far a superior lubricant. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2019 Posts: 449 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2019 Posts: 449 | And if you have a tight engine that doesn't leak a lot of oil, synthetic is more than fine, it is by far a superior lubricant. Is this a reflection on the viscosity of synthetic or the cost of it? Thanks
Kevin 1965 Chevy C10 Longbed Fleetside
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,922 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,922 | The viscosity is not an index of load capacity, film strength, "slippery-ness", or bearing protection. It's the thickness: how much can pass through a sized orifice per second at a given temperature. Paint, molten metal, and maple syrup may have the same viscosity. | | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,113 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,113 | Yep that's true. Water works for bearings, but it can't stand the heat in an engine. In fact there are circulating pumps for heating systems that are lubricated by the pumped water.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,518 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,518 | If you like Shell Rotella get the T4 it has enough zinc for flat tappet cams too. Lots of options but stay away from synthetics if you have been running dino oils in the past. IMHO 1953 Chevrolet 3100261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done In the DITY GalleryVideo of the 261 running1964 GMC 1000305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
| | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,113 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,113 | Lots of options but stay away from synthetics if you have been running dino oils in the past. IMHO I have yet to hear a first hand story about leaky seals when changing from dino to synthetic. Usually, it's "My second cousin's brother in law's uncle........" Just saying. 
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 4,504 Moderator, Electrical Bay | | Moderator, Electrical Bay Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 4,504 | Buy 30 weight Valvoline VR-1 from Amazon.
~ Jon 1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235 | T5 with 3.07 rear end
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,922 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,922 | Notice that 30 weight is not listed in the original specs. Why? A joke: "The number before the W of a multi-weight oil (or the only number of a single weight oil) is the time in seconds it takes for full pressure to reach the farthest bearing in the engine". 5W30: 5 seconds 20W50: 20 seconds 50: 50 seconds As mileage increases leakage from the bearings, it takes even longer...
Heavy weight oil is a good idea, if the oil and the engine are both at 212 degrees when you start it. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,518 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,518 | I have yet to hear a first hand story about leaky seals when changing from dino to synthetic. Usually, it's "My second cousin's brother in law's uncle........" Just saying.  Go ahead and give it a try then, I just wrote that because it did happen to me in my 94 ford pickup.
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1953 Chevrolet 3100261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done In the DITY GalleryVideo of the 261 running1964 GMC 1000305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,991 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,991 | When I put the 283 back in my 2 ton I filled it with Valvoline 5w-30 full synthetic 'cause that's what I had on hand. I did not do any machine work on the engine, just a cam, lifters, gears and chain that I took out of a 350 from a prior build. I cleaned the oil pump screen, new front seal, pan gasket, intake gasket, left the original rope seal in the rear main. No leaks and it runs great with no smoke. I also was concerned about running synthetic in it but I have no worries now.
1957 Chevrolet 5700 LCF 283 SM420 2 speed rear, 1955 IH 300U T/A, 1978 Corvette 350 auto, 1978 Yamaha DT175, 1999 Harley Davidson Softail Fat Boy
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2019 Posts: 40 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Nov 2019 Posts: 40 | I used full synth for the first time in anything about a month ago. Put it in my wife's escalade and liked it so much I put it in everything I have including 1946 Chevy 2 ton. It really smoothed the 46 out the most. Much quieter, idles and runs smoother and stronger. Leaks, well it still leaks but cant really tell the diff on that. Starts up at zero degrees just like it did at 70.
Pat
1946 PW Grain truck, 1966 C10 long stepside, 1972 C20 Custom Camper Big Block, 1975 C10 Silverado OE big block.
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,518 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,518 | When I put the 283 back in my 2 ton I filled it with Valvoline 5w-30 full synthetic 'cause that's what I had on hand. I did not do any machine work on the engine, just a cam, lifters, gears and chain that I took out of a 350 from a prior build. I cleaned the oil pump screen, new front seal, pan gasket, intake gasket, left the original rope seal in the rear main. No leaks and it runs great with no smoke. I also was concerned about running synthetic in it but I have no worries now. Believe rope seals fair better against synthetics than neoprene seals on the rear mains, no empirical data just my own thinking. 1953 Chevrolet 3100261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done In the DITY GalleryVideo of the 261 running1964 GMC 1000305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
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