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#13295 12/17/2003 6:57 PM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 687 | Does anyone know if it's possible to get 270 HP from a 292 using the stock head - no nitrous, no turbo, no supercharger - and not have to resort to using a cam that will give you an extremely lopy idle?
I know that, at a minimum, I'm looking at having to remove the head bolt boss and go with lump ports and larger valves. Probably a 600 cfm 4 barrel and certainly flat top pistons and headers. Would a stock GM HEI suffice for ignition?
What other mods would it take to get to 270 real HP (if it could be done)? | | |
#13296 12/17/2003 8:03 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | I think it's do-able with a healthy cam, but not with stock ignition. Mallory Unilite combined with MSD-6 box, which will help smooth out the cam. Have you got Santucci's book?
Fred 52 3600 69 C-10
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#13297 12/17/2003 9:01 PM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 146 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 146 | Ftyler,
I think a HEI would do, but to have 270 horses You should use a lot of cam, a lot of compression, headders and a 600cfm carb. But would not call it s street engine. For sure would have a rough idle, but i'd not see need to remove the bolt post yet.
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#13298 12/18/2003 10:18 AM | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,226 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,226 | After reading the Power Manual and looking at engine dyno-charts, it would be hard to deliver 270 HP and still be streetable. Small cubic inch engines make hp by running high rpm. One of the engine charts in the book is from Sissell's Automotive. Its a 301 making 450 hp, the charts don't start till 4000 rpm and peak at 7500 rpm.
Go with a turbo charger and have power to spare :p Joe | | |
#13299 12/18/2003 9:27 PM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | Yep, my 750 cc bike motor makes 80 horse power. That's at 8000 rpm! It only makes 80 ft-lbs of torque, or something like that.
My 2.5L (That's 152 cubic inches) BMW inline 6 makes 175 HP at 5500 rpm. I would love to have a 333 HP M3 motor to stick in a stovebolt.
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#13300 12/20/2003 1:53 AM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 55 Member | | Member Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 55 | You'd be hard pressed to have a naturally aspirated 292 pushing 270 hp to the ground. You'd end up using way too much cam and compression for the street. What are you building the engine for? If it's for street, then build the 292 for torque. That's what they are made for, and good at. If not, then your best bet would be to use a turbo. Even easier (and cheaper) than that would be to use nitrous. Just my thoughts. John
1968 Chevy C-10, 250 and 3 speed on floor, Hedman headers, Offy intake, Edelbrock 600cfm 4 barrel, HEI 1966 Chevy C-10, motor and tranny went into the '68. Waiting to be restored.
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#13301 12/28/2003 8:02 PM | | Anonymous Unregistered | | Anonymous Unregistered | My Father, who has been building inline sixes since the early 50's, is a big fan of multiple carbs. According to him it is the single quickest way to add horses to an inline six. I had a 235 with dual rochesters and fenton headers. Just those two improvements made it a lot quicker than stock.
So, for a project like yours dual weber 2 barrels would probably perform better than one big carb. 2 Webers comes up to 660 cfm, and you can choose from a number of jet sizes to fine tune it. | | |
#13302 12/29/2003 12:09 AM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 | I checked the date on your post. I thought it was an old one from before you built your engine?
54 3100 with 235 62 flatbed dump C60 with 261
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