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#1302226 03/08/2019 6:13 PM
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I have a spare Sm420 that I would like to play with, learn some and maybe rebuilt if required/desired. Has a brake which I will remove and replace with a back plate suitable for my stock drive shaft. 283 engine.
Can someone ID this transmission?
What back plate am I looking for? What am I asking/looking for?
Are the input and output shaft splines correct or do I need to fuss with shafts as well, which might be the deal closer.
Thanks for any help to get me started.
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~ HB
1966 Chevrolet K-10 | Ghost: formerly Flappy Fenders | In the Stovebolt Gallery
1962 Chevrolet C10
1962 Suburban
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Your trans was casted on April 6th 1962 and was setup for big truck with handbrake/drum mounted on the transmission. You only need to remove the rear bearing cover and replace it with the standard duty cover from 1948 on up to 1966 like this one attached part number 591701, Type in that part number in ebay and one is for sale now.

Input and output shafts are compatible and correct, in actuality, once the drum is removed it (your existing bearing cover)doesn't even need to be removed, it will accept the standard driveshaft yoke but it would clean it up nicely otherwise.

Steve
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1953 Chevrolet 3100
261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done
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Video of the 261 running

1964 GMC 1000
305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
Hambone #1302251 03/08/2019 9:41 PM
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Good info. Thanks for part number.


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1962 Chevrolet C10
1962 Suburban
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Am I missing something? Does picture three in the original post show a different output shaft?


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Hambone #1302257 03/08/2019 10:13 PM
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No the parking brake drum is removed only, exposing the rear bearing cover


1953 Chevrolet 3100
261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done
In the DITY Gallery
Video of the 261 running

1964 GMC 1000
305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
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Is there any reason to remove the parking brake drum system? I have done it, but after fighting the cable system on my 52, I am considering putting one on so as to not have to deal with the misery of the cables


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Hambone #1302285 03/09/2019 1:45 AM
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No, actually it is a better parking brake system IMHO, designed for heavy vehicles fully laden.


1953 Chevrolet 3100
261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done
In the DITY Gallery
Video of the 261 running

1964 GMC 1000
305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
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I have been told that there is damage to the brake bracket in my pictured transmission. I believe in pix 3, on the left side, the arm (?) that holds something against the drum is busted. I have been told this renders the brake/back plate useless and on no value to anyone.


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1962 Chevrolet C10
1962 Suburban
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Yes, I see that now, sorry for not catching that.
Still if you wanted to save a few bucks and do a little work, you could cut the existing bracket in these locations and use it after replacing the rear seal of course.
Steve
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Last edited by sstock; 03/09/2019 2:25 PM.

1953 Chevrolet 3100
261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done
In the DITY Gallery
Video of the 261 running

1964 GMC 1000
305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
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Originally Posted by Hambone
I have been told that there is damage to the brake bracket in my pictured transmission. I believe in pix 3, on the left side, the arm (?) that holds something against the drum is busted. I have been told this renders the brake/back plate useless and on no value to anyone.


Yes, the band brake support shank is broken off of your Retainer Plate. The only thing that plate is good for now is for a 1/2 ton truck that doesn't use a propeller shaft parking brake system...they uses cables to the rear axle drums like a car.

Mike B smile
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Mike Boteler

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