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#1301955 03/06/2019 6:34 PM
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Still confusion in my feeble mind over tire sizes. I've read thru much of what's here, especially Denny Graham's thread from a couple years ago. I'm wanting to put a radial tire on stock 16 inch rims on my 1947 GMC 1/2 ton. The truck will be an occasional driver with a farm truck vibe. Black side walls. It looks to me like the 215-85r-16 is the way to go.(?) Not planning on using tubes, but I don't know if that's a good decision. I want my truck to look like this...eventually. (not sure who own's this truck but I dig it!)

I suppose my questions are: Will the 215-85r-16 fit on a stock rim? And, Do I need tubes in these?
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Not sure. How do I measure em?

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If the tire is off the rim, just measure the distance between bead seats. With tires on, it's a little tougher. You'd need a caliper to reach around the tire, again measuring where the bead of the tire seats. The dimension using that method would be slightly larger due to the thickness of the metal, but you should be able to tell the difference between 4.0 or 4.5 inches width.


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I've got 3 rims with tires holding the truck up, and one that I bought from someone here with no tire. That one looks to be a 4 incher.

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I really dig your taste in trucks! The photo in your first post is my truck.

Those tires are now 12 years old! With over 30,000 miles on them.

No tubes, stock rims. I can check the size when I get home.


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I think the rims are marked/ stamped with the size on the backside. It should read 16X4.00E or 16X4.50E, or something like that. Might have to scrub the dirt, grease, grime or rust off to see it.


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Thanks Sweet. I've got a couple pictures of your truck on my computer. Great looking truck. Yeah, if you could check the size that'd be great.

Thanks Frank, I'll check the rim tomorrow. I suppose it's possible I have a mismatched set.

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And about epoxy. I've read on a couple threads about putting epoxy on the rivet areas to help keep them sealed. What kind of epoxy? Where do I get such epoxy?

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Any two part general purpose epoxy will do ya.

Like this:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gorilla-7-8-fl-oz-General-Purpose-Epoxy-42001/100670610
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Oh, cool. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Frank50
I think the rims are marked/ stamped with the size on the backside. It should read 16X4.00E or 16X4.50E, or something like that. Might have to scrub the dirt, grease, grime or rust off to see it.

Nuthin on mine. There's #2 on the inside between the rivets but that's about it.

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When you measure your wheels for width a 4.5" rim will actually be about 5.5" outside to outside

A3 indicated built Jan of 1953
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1953 Chevrolet 3100
261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done
In the DITY Gallery
Video of the 261 running

1964 GMC 1000
305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
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Never had to use anything on wheels when going tubeless. Here is a 53 we did that may be the look you're going after. The tires are 215/85R but may be on 15" wheels---I don't remember but tire OD should be close.

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/c6gp1m6R/Picture-014.jpg[/img]


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I had 4 tubeless radials mounted and only one leaked past the rivets. Epoxy fixed that one. 2,000 miles ans still no leaks. I recommend epoxy on all of them just for good measure.


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Evan, That's exactly what I'm looking for. Even the color. Thanks.

Carl, sounds like a good plan to me.

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I'm also looking for rims / tires for my 1954 3100 and going for the "Farm Truck" look.
That green is a great color!
The previous owner put 15" rims with too wide of tires on it:
The rear tires are P275/60SR15
The front tires are P235/60R15

Considering 16" Wheel Vintiques rims .....but not sure their hub caps will clear the wheel bearing dust covers.

Wheel Vintiques
12 series smoothies
16x6 6x51/2 BKSP 4" 12-660604
https://www.wheelvintiques.com/wheels/truck/smoothie-bare-finish.html


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Chevy Cap for Smoothie (1952)

Going to Portland Swap meet in a few weeks looking for rims ....
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darthintel cool truck. If you decide to go with a non spare rear fender let me know. I'm looking to by a spare tire set up.

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I just bought a spare tire carrier on Ebay for $20 - as I want to keep the spare.
My truck had the mounts on the truck, just missing the carrier.

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Got my tires on today. They are AT Turos, Whatever that is, 215-85R-16. At first they looked taller than I wanted, but I like em now. They have the farm truck vibe that I wanted.
(I'll post this on the area that I'm posting my progress, figured I'd put it here for the future generations that are always asking the tire question.)
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Nice truck . I think the tires and wheels make it.


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Thanks! I'm really digging this truck. I think it'll be pretty cool once I buff what's left of the paint out and put the bumper etc back on.

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Yeah. I like the GMC front clip too. Certainly is something to be proud of. Thanks for your posting about tire sizes too. I will refer to it at a later date.


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Originally Posted by Just Mark
Got my tires on today. They are AT Turos, Whatever that is, 215-85R-16. At first they looked taller than I wanted, but I like em now. They have the farm truck vibe that I wanted.
(I'll post this on the area that I'm posting my progress, figured I'd put it here for the future generations that are always asking the tire question.)

Where are the rims from? I'm looking for 16 x 6 for my 1954 chev 3100.


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