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Fresh overhaul, approx 1 hr. on engine, Truck has a "216 splasher" Oil Pressure gauge 0-15-30 psi.
First few engine runs, Oil press was most always at 30psi. I've run it a couple of times more (in the garage) and driven it once (2 miles) to get gas.
Now (idling) oil pressure is +/- 16-17, when I bring up the RPM, pressure will go to 30, if I back off the RPM, pressure drops back down.
Oil quantity's full, New filter, water temp stays around 180. Oil ozzes out of holes on top of rockers when idling when pressure was at 30 (should it be more?) Pump is a Melling M-29 (new)
Any suggestions, How do I trouble-shoot this? Jim
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,969 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,969 | That seems about right to me. Other more experienced minds will probably be along soon and offer advice.
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,038 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,038 | I have two trucks with "splasher" oil gauge and later high pressure 235s. They both do the same thing and I would say it is normal. No doubt, with higher rpms you are pinning the oil gauge at 30 and the actual pressure is higher. Of course, we are assuming your gauge is accurate as the real pressures could be higher or lower. Kent | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,819 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,819 | I'd suggest tapping into the side of the block temporarily with a gauge you know to be accurate, possibly one with a 0-50 PSI range or so. Factory original gauges have a tendency to be extremely inaccurate at times. Since "idiot light" switches had a turn-on pressure of 7 PSI, a lot of engines without a gauge that had a pretty severe pressure drop at idle never let it be known. As long as the pressure comes up off-idle, you probably don't have a problem. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,282 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,282 | I have the exact same setup. '53 full pressure engine and a 30# gauge. 10,000 miles since total professional rebuild. The needle stays pegged on 30# until it is thoroughly warmed up. Once it is warmed up it drops to 15-16 at idle. I keep the idle at around 450 RPM. At 600 RPM, it pegs the 30# gauge. You are fine. Nothing to troubleshoot whatsoever. 15 PSI is twice as much as you need at idle. Oil oozing at the rocker arms at idle verifies this. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 94 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 94 | I thought I had an (oil pressure) issue,
Thanks for all the great responses. Jim | | | | | Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 214 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 214 | I swear mine never drops below 30, but maybe I'm losing my mind.... I'll confirm next time we run the engine.
1953 Canadian GMC 9314 w/ (factory) Chevy 235
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,518 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,518 | 56 235 engine in my 53, running mechanical lifters with stock oil pressure gauge. At speed it pegs the needle at 30psi. Warmed up at idle about 10psi. 1953 Chevrolet 3100261 cu inch, sm420, 3.55 rear, torque tube still,omaha orange, still 6 volt, RPO green glass, side carrier spare, all done In the DITY GalleryVideo of the 261 running1964 GMC 1000305 Big Block V6, sm420, the next cab off restoration
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,282 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,282 | I swear mine never drops below 30, but maybe I'm losing my mind.... I'll confirm next time we run the engine. What is your RPM at idle? What weight oil are you using? You live too close to the Arctic Circle to count.  Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,096 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,096 | I just wanted to add another confirmation . The 235 in my '37 pegs at 30 till it warms up then is about 15 at idle. Very old engine. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 214 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 214 | What is your RPM at idle? What weight oil are you using? You live too close to the Arctic Circle to count.  Carl 1) Low according to my ears, 2) unknown, but likely 15W40 and 3) pfft.
1953 Canadian GMC 9314 w/ (factory) Chevy 235
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,282 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,282 | 1) Low according to my ears, 2) unknown, but likely 15W40 and 3) pfft. "pfft"? Since I don't speak Canadian, I do not know what that means. I have a feeling that I probably don't want to know.  My Arctic Circle reference was intended to illustrate that colder ambient temperature will have an affect on oil viscosity, resulting in higher oil pressure than what can be expected in a warmer climate. Carl Socially awkward Yank.
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | pfft
exclamation (probably meaning #1 or #3)?
1. used to represent a brief sound such as that made by the passage of a bullet or that of a small, muffled explosion. "Pfft! Pfft! Pfft! Bullets ricocheted around the room" 2. used to convey the suddenness of a malfunction, disappearance, ending, etc. "then pffft, that was the last we heard of them" 3. used to express a contemptuous or dismissive attitude. "pfft, I don't know what all the fuss is about"
(from Google dictionary - presumably similar meaning in Canadianese?) | | | | | Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 214 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 214 | pfft
exclamation (probably meaning #1 or #3)?
1. used to represent a brief sound such as that made by the passage of a bullet or that of a small, muffled explosion. "Pfft! Pfft! Pfft! Bullets ricocheted around the room" 2. used to convey the suddenness of a malfunction, disappearance, ending, etc. "then pffft, that was the last we heard of them" 3. used to express a contemptuous or dismissive attitude. "pfft, I don't know what all the fuss is about"
(from Google dictionary - presumably similar meaning in Canadianese?) Haha, nice work! I would say number 3 is accurate...
1953 Canadian GMC 9314 w/ (factory) Chevy 235
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