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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 | Okay so Hot rod has no experience with this. Anyone else?
Don
Can’t begin to tell you how much I hate the name Stovebolt.
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,298 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,298 | For one to have an opinion on a topic, one would require a specific description, or maybe a picture of said product.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,337 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,337 | I was unaware that a one piece was made for a 216. Where are the available?
See the USA in your vintage Chevrolet! My Blog | | | | | Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 | I was unaware that a one piece was made for a 216. Where are the available? You may be right. Don
Can’t begin to tell you how much I hate the name Stovebolt.
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,298 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,298 | Your original post was worded as though you knew of the existence of a one piece gasket. Would you not have saved everyone a lot of time if you had simply inquired if one existed? Given the relative crudeness of design of the day, the 216 would not lend itself to a workable one piece oil pan gasket, IMSOO (in my somewhat opinionated opinion). Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 | Your original post was worded as though you knew of the existence of a one piece gasket. Would you not have saved everyone a lot of time if you had simply inquired if one existed? Given the relative crudeness of design of the day, the 216 would not lend itself to a workable one piece oil pan gasket, IMSOO (in my somewhat opinionated opinion). Carl My original post was to find out if anyone had any experience with these on AD 216 motor. Please don’t hold me to a perfect standard for typing questions. I almost didn’t make it through high school. I’m not done looking for one. Haven’t had a chance to actually talk to a supplier. But I still have my can of “Right Stuff”😜 Don
Can’t begin to tell you how much I hate the name Stovebolt.
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 | Make sure you flatten out the oil pan where the bolts go. Right. Going to clean it up and paint it grey too. Don
Can’t begin to tell you how much I hate the name Stovebolt.
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,038 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,038 | As Carl pointed out it would be difficult to design a one piece gasket that worked better than the standard 4 piece gasket set for the oil pan. For example, the front and back curved areas require a much thicker gasket than the longer flat side pieces. I am a fan of the Right Stuff but I have two cautionary notes about using it in this application. First, the clearance between the oil dippers and troughs in the oil pan would affected by the absence of gasket material. I am not saying that it would necessarily matter but I would want to get an opinion from the experts and it would probably vary from engine to engine depending on how well aligned they are in the first place. Second, while we don't plan on removing the oil pan for routine maintenance the adhesive qualities of the Right Stuff will make it very difficult to remove the pan. You may end up warping it to pry it off. The Right Stuff is used by some manufacturers as oil pan sealant (Cat engines) so I know it will seal.
I have used the Right Stuff along with a standard gasket on certain applications with good success. If you need to disassemble, it is not too hard to shear the gasket in the middle, then it is not too bad of a job to scrape the gasket material away. Again, I would only use the Right Stuff alone where it would be doubtful you will ever be there again.
Good luck and let us know if you find a one piece gasket for the oil pan. Kent | | | | | Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 | Kent I don’t think I will be using RightStuff for the oil pan. I picked up a new set of gaskets and they are pretty wide. Should have plenty of surface area to get a good seal.
But this is only because I couldn’t find a one piece gasket. They make them for quite a few motors and they are also steel reinforced so the stay put well.
If Permatex says it’s okay to use RightStuff with my cork gasket, I will. There’s no wait time with that stuff and I think it’s a superior product. Thanks for your post and the heads up on the clearance issue.
I purchased a one piece gasket for the oil pan and just seeing it you can tell it’s the best way to go. But this one didn’t fit my motor. They make them for the 4 piece applications and the end seals are made to the correct thickness. These are molded not cut out flat.
Don
Can’t begin to tell you how much I hate the name Stovebolt.
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,878 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,878 | You'll still need or want a small dab of silicone sealer or similar at the corners or transitions on the 4 piece oil pan gasket set. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 370 | You'll still need or want a small dab of silicone sealer or similar at the corners or transitions on the 4 piece oil pan gasket set. Right. I made the repair this week end. Pulled the pan and it was pretty dirty inside. This was a little disappointing. But after a good parts wash it was ready to paint. I took the pan down to bare metal and used a professional self etching primer. Followed be a sealer and then 3 coats of grey engine paint. The color of my choosing. From what I gather this grey color isn’t written stone and there are many right colors of grey to use. After cleaning the block surface well enough to please anyone suffering from OCD. I used Permatex black on the block then the cork gasket. Dabbed the corners and put a thin layer on the pan too. The gaskets stuck to the block and stayed in place and the pan went in and bolted up nicely. Torquing flat head (screws) seemed odd but it seems to work so I didn’t change them out for modern hex heads. Waited till morning to replace the oil and off to a cruise in at O’Reillys. Thx for the help here guys,Don
Can’t begin to tell you how much I hate the name Stovebolt.
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