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| | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 164 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 164 | Ok, scenario...what is the best way to turn a motor over by hand? 235 motor with an 848 head. Hoping to use this motor for my 52, 3100. Motor is complete, all parts still attached except for valve cover which I removed. Is there a place to latch on to the crank for turning over the engine? A place to insert a bolt to put a wrench on? Or should I be able to grab the crank pully and turn it by hand?
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Joe | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,747 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,747 | Screw two 3/8-16 bolts into the harmonic balancer, into the puller attaching holes and use a pry bar between them. A better way is to use the chisel-shaped end of a shepherd's crook wrecking bar between the flywheel ring gear teeth and the edge of the bellhousing.
Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | Make sure you don't have spark plugs in it.
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 164 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 164 | Plugs are out and sitting on the work bench. Will try some grade 8 bolts on the balancer and see if I can't get it to turn | | | | | Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 592 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 592 | Jerry's technique works great. I also have good luck using a flywheel turning tool if the engine isn't seized up. It's a tool that does what Jerry describes with the wrecking bar, but it locks itself into the flywheel instead of having to use the bellhousing for leverage. If you search 'flywheel turning tool' on eBay, you'll get several hits.
If you have the engine out, consider using one of Jerry's kits to tap the crank snout so that you can install the harmonic balancer with a bolt. Sure makes it easier to turn over the engine using the bolt.
Matt | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Jerry,
Do you recommend using the 216/235/261 crank-snout bolt to turn the engine through a full rotation? | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,747 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,747 | If it's one that's seized or hasn't been run in a while, NO! You will either strip the thread or break the bolt on a seized-up engine. If it's free to turn, no problem. The 7/16-20 bolt can take 70-75 ft/lbs of torque without a problem, which is much more than a running engine needs.
Some balancers have a squared-off hole in the front that will accept a 3/4" square drive socket extension. If so, that's the best way to turn the crank, using a 3/4 drive ratchet or a breaker bar.
Jerry
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Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 496 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 496 | I just took off the flywheel protective cover underneath and grabbed the flywheel by hand (with shop gloves on) and it turns really easily, even with spark plugs in.
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