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#1213272 04/16/2017 1:36 AM
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I think I know the answer to this but I am not extremely familiar with hub centric vs. stud centric so I am not 100% sure. I have a '48 DRW 3800 that I picked up some modern 19.5" wheels for. I am going to try to reuse my old clamping plate but I noticed the lug studs are smaller than the lug holes in my new wheels. Do I need to get my hub drilled out to put in bigger studs or can I run it as-is?


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1948 Chevrolet 3800 216/4-spd
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1995 Jeep Cherokee 4.0/5-spd
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1973 Ford Maverick 302/C4
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Is the I D(inside diameter) of the wheel a tight fit on the hub? If so, the wheel registers on the hub, not the studs. Is the I D of the clamping plate the correct size to fit the hubs?

Ed


'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
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Aaron #1213299 04/16/2017 2:40 AM
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The wheel and plate are the correct size for the hub, it is only the diameter of the lug studs that is different. I was not sure if I'd have to be concerned with there being some rotational play, sounds like not?


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1948 Chevrolet 3800 216/4-spd
1979 Chevrolet C30 Ramp Truck 454/TH-400
1995 Jeep Cherokee 4.0/5-spd
1970 Ford F100 390/4-spd
1973 Ford Maverick 302/C4
2004 Honda Shadow 1100

"While driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and instinctively swerved to avoid it᠁thanks Mario Kart."
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In my opinion this is not a problem.
I'm running 19.5" wheels with 5/8" stud holes on my DRW 1 ton with original 1/2" clamp plates and studs. The wheels are hub centered.
Just rotated the wheels tight on the studs as if driving for the rear and the other way for the front as if braking. Then torque nuts to spec.

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So I need some education here. A DRV 3800 has a front end like the heavier series trucks? Does it have five studs in the front and ten in the rear?


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Aaron #1213372 04/16/2017 4:34 PM
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Thanks for the feedback, that helps a ton and I should be able to get the front end back on the ground today!

My DRW 1-ton has 8-lugs on all four corners. The front is set up for a 'dually offset' (for lack of a better term) wheel.

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Ok, new question now. What I am finding looks like I need 90-degree cone lug nuts, where can I find these? I can find 9/16" and 5/8" all day but not 1/2".

What I took off just look like standard hex nuts but I doubt those are stock. Am I able to just use a standard flanged nut?


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1948 Chevrolet 3800 216/4-spd
1979 Chevrolet C30 Ramp Truck 454/TH-400
1995 Jeep Cherokee 4.0/5-spd
1970 Ford F100 390/4-spd
1973 Ford Maverick 302/C4
2004 Honda Shadow 1100

"While driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and instinctively swerved to avoid it᠁thanks Mario Kart."
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Is there a chamfer on the wheel where the lug nut seats(requires tapered nut) or is there just a hole with no chamfer(just requires std. nut) ? Or is there a nut plate that all 8 bolts secure(requires tapered nut). .

Ed

Last edited by EdPruss; 04/19/2017 6:08 AM.

'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
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From another thread on same subject
https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/1180335/2.html
Originally Posted by Grigg
Lug nuts,
From my research they are originally 3/4" over flats and 1/2-20 thread. Common grade 8 nuts are the right shape/size.
I purchased two boxes of "armor coat" nuts from McMaster Carr, their part number 93827A249
http://www.mcmaster.com/#93827a249/=14geajr


1951 GMC 250 in the Project Journals
1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
1952 Chevrolet 3800 pickup
---All pictures---
"First, get a clear notion of what you desire to accomplish, and then in all probability you will succeed in doing it..." -Henry Maudslay-

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