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Hello all, just took off my flywheel for clutch job
Clutch disk looks good but there are what appears to be small cracks on flywheel
Please see the pics
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/...191DD0F2-106F-4109-9D15-6EB043318757.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/...1C87828E-6E66-49D3-98B8-E7A31503DD42.jpg


1949 Chevrolet 3100 Suburban Carryall
"Bad Guy"
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1950 Chevrolet 3100 3-Window
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1966 GMC Suburban Carryall Custom
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I have only seen 3 stove bolt flywheels, and all of them looked worse than that. That said, I have no idea what is acceptable to put into service. I ended up buying a 12v Sachs flywheel for an 11 inch clutch on Partsgeek.com for $68 because I didn't want to run a flywheel that had deep cracks in it.

Last edited by Norcal Dave; 12/12/2016 5:28 PM.

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Foto-goofup isn't cooperating with my computer, but in general, tiny cracks aren't terrible. Glazing is, a shiny finish that interferes with the clutch disc getting traction on the flywheel. Try getting a machine shop to grind (not cut) the friction surface to remove the glaze. Another common flywheel problem is hard spots that are difficult to machine or grind away, and they tend to be football-shaped. As the surface is machined or ground the hard spot gets bigger. The spot that shows on the surface is like the tip of an iceberg- - - -there's much more below the surface.
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Photobucket is a PITA. When viewing those links, my computer almost hung up.

Here are "direct" links to the photos. These might avoid the BS ads/etc.

http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/...191DD0F2-106F-4109-9D15-6EB043318757.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/...1C87828E-6E66-49D3-98B8-E7A31503DD42.jpg

Photobucket users might want to try to post "direct" links.

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Those "checks" look pretty deep to me. There also appears to be heat discoloration?

My machine shop tells me if they can get rid of checks and discoloration.

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All I'm getting is the little spinning icon, and it happens on every website I visit. That's why I use Hunt101.com as my pic host
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Jerry I can email them to you if it helps


1949 Chevrolet 3100 Suburban Carryall
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In the Stovebolt Gallery
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1950 Chevrolet 3100 3-Window
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More pix on Photobucket

1966 GMC Suburban Carryall Custom
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Guys thanks for the advice
I piggybacked an earlier post last week
The reason I'm doing a clutch is the truck sat with me not running for 14 years and was last registered in 91' according to the plate that was on it
Ever since I got it running and driving, the throw out bearing would make noise when backing out or taking off
After a while, it starting making noise when in neutral and the truck was actually bumping or shaking forward a bit.then the noise kept on when driving
I was sure I would have found a broken clutch disc screw
But upon taking everything out the clutch looks pretty good

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1949 Chevrolet 3100 Suburban Carryall
"Bad Guy"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pix in Photobucket

1950 Chevrolet 3100 3-Window
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pix on Photobucket

1966 GMC Suburban Carryall Custom
"Big Guy"
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Better at least pull the side plate and look inside the transmission while you've got it out. If it's making noise with the clutch pedal out and the trans in neutral, the problem is probably in the transmission. Lurching forward in neutral really concerns me.
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Thanks again Jerry
A few more details
When the truck ran for the first few times, heard a metal squeaking noise
At first thought it was coming from the timing chain cover
It went away after press the cutch a few times. The lurching sometimes goes away too after pressing the clutch. The throw out bearing came out bone dry and the rear 2 motor mounts are not bolted in if this helps at all
Thanks again


1949 Chevrolet 3100 Suburban Carryall
"Bad Guy"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pix in Photobucket

1950 Chevrolet 3100 3-Window
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pix on Photobucket

1966 GMC Suburban Carryall Custom
"Big Guy"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pix on Photobucket
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I would let a trusted local machine shop that doesn't sell parts advise me on the unit's serviceability.


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Forty9, if you find a machine shop that sells a flywheel for our trucks- let me know!!! I have failed at finding a new flywheel (that fits) anywhere.

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Per Norcal Dave, if you can get a new flywheel for $68 minus $30 they will charge to resurface= $38. Why even consider the old one? Your old one is toast!!! Do we know what truck this flywheel is on?

https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/5912880206.html







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Update: The new flywheel that I bought online does not fit my engine... it's got one dowel pin hole and it has a larger diameter ring gear, and the bolt pattern is larger. Probably fits a V8.

Now I get to pay return freight- yay. The parts listing said 1958 4.3 liter inline chevy 6 168 tooth ring gear. I thought that a 4.3 is a 261 cu in. I guess not.

Sending the flywheel back.


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Nope, that will be a 265 V8 - - -one of the oddball bore/stroke combinations the small block V8's had. Are you looking for a 6V or a 12V stovebolt flywheel? I think I've got both. Drop me a PM.
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We need to kick liters (metrics) out of our country! Jerry/Dave maybe Suburban Lou wants the flywheel. Would be fair, his post.


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Update
Got the flywheel resurfaced and new clutch kit ordered
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/...73F54516-DFDC-483C-9CF8-C054414ED2AE.jpg


1949 Chevrolet 3100 Suburban Carryall
"Bad Guy"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pix in Photobucket

1950 Chevrolet 3100 3-Window
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pix on Photobucket

1966 GMC Suburban Carryall Custom
"Big Guy"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pix on Photobucket
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Looks good, Lou

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Wish I could see it- - - -photo-butt doesn't work with my computer.
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Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
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Nope- - - -all I get is that irritating little spinning icon.
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Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway
Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!

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