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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 338 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 338 | So can I put a fuse between the wire that goes from starter to ammeter gauge?
I hate it that the two inch post always has live current.
I always pull back the floor mat, pull the battery panel and disconnect the battery before working, but last night the cable snuck back and made contact with the terminal...scared the bejesus out of me. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,871 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,871 | Use a fusible link where the ammeter wire connects to the starter cable. It will handle current surges better than a fuse. I'd choose a piece of fuse link of about 12 gauge- - - -which should have a burn-out point of around 60 amps or so. Be VERY sure you get a good electrical connection. I use a Western Union splice for fuse links. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 338 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 338 | Also how nervous should I be about the posts for ammeter and gas gauges touching the edges of the case?
We insulate the front and back but not the posts as they go through.
Thinking of putting a small rubber piece to protect the post?
Am I crazy? | | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | I'll go ahead and answer everyone's question but mainly my own! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Union_splice | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | Thanks Alvin, but I refreshed my diminishing memory by using the "Search" (above) in the menu above: Keyword Search Terms : +Western +Union +Splice".
First reference here in 2006. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 | To expand on Hotrod's comment. The rule of thumb for fusible links is 4 wire sizes smaller for the link vs the size of wire you are protecting. So, if you are using an #8AWG wire to your amp meter then one would use a #12AWG link. The odd numbers like 11, 13, 15 count.
Six volt guy living in a twelve volt world
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,871 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,871 | Don't the insulators in all ammeters have bushings where the conductors go through the metal mounting plate? Every one I've ever worked on does. Some folks lie awake at night wondering why the faucet isn't dripping! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 131 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 131 | Thanks HRL , Jerry you put a big smile on my face with the mention of a western union splice. It brought back memories of proper methodology. I am also a HAM and make connections quite often. Alvin and others can look it up to refresh how to do it correct.
The current to the back of a ammeter can get out of control with old frayed wiring and the use of higher amperage alternators used as a upgrade without a shunt also being used. New stuff uses a volt meter.
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3 1962 Chev c-10 261 engine 4 1966 Plymouth VIP 5.7 GenIII Hemi 5 1966 Imperial Crown Coupe 440 engine | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,871 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,871 | LOL! You're new enough on the forum that I'm sure you weren't around for the flame war over the proper way to shunt a stovebolt ammeter. I use a piece of stainless steel hose clamp shaped into an approximation of the "Ohms" symbol, bolted across the terminals of the ammeter. Since that meter was always about as accurate as a 9-lb. sledgehammer used for driving carpet tacks, the shunt turns it into a charge/discharge indicator, which is all it was to begin with. The screams of protest over that common-sense solution were epic! Jerry
BTW, I ride an 82 GL1100! I crashed an 86 GL1200 two years ago, and almost lost my left foot! Bikes are much more fun on top, not so much under one! Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 506 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 506 | Jerry;
Did you wrap the shunt in heat shrink to eliminate any possible shorting. I remember the knock down drag out about shunts and I think I'm still in your camp on the issue. I would think it would be prudent to insulate the shunt.
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Larry
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,871 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,871 | That would be a good idea- - - -just use a fairly large piece of heat shrink tubing over the loop section of the shunt. The voltage drop across it shouldn't be sufficient to overheat the insulation even in high current flow situations. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,749 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,749 | The shunt across the Ammeter is just a parallel circuit. Big current in the shunt, and small across the meter. Works like a champ. I never thought you could "read" the current on the meter, just "charge"(good) and "discharge"(bad). If you wanted a good read(in Amps) you used a big lead tester. 35 Amps will heat up 12 gauge wire, and 100 Amps runs my home. Stainless hose clamp..won't rust(and become a Resistor). Heat shrink will keep most stuff from shorting so that is good. Not a bad way to go if you must use a big current system. Use a Volt meter to keep track of the system overall.
Steve H
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