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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | I rebuilt my Rochester B, and my truck ('53 3100 w/a '55 235) starts, warms up, and runs fine until I attempt to back off the choke, at which point it dies. As long as the choke is activated, the engine runs great. Do I have it adjusted too lean? And if so, how to I adjust the carb to create a richer mixture? Thanks-Lee
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,275 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,275 | Check to make sure that you have the proper carburetor base gasket where it meets the intake manifold. There is a hole in the intake manifold which may be covered up by the wrong gasket. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | Check to make sure that you have the proper carburetor base gasket where it meets the intake manifold. There is a hole in the intake manifold which may be covered up by the wrong gasket. Carl Yeah, I had to cut a hole in the gasket to keep that channel open...... | | | | | Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,922 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,922 | | | | | | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,206 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,206 | Mixture screw should be 1 1/2 to 2 turns out from a seated position. If that doesn't help, then you have dirt somewhere or the float is really low causing a lean conditions. How did it run before the overhaul? Do not adjust timing till you get the carb running as least as good as it did before cleaning, you don't want two problems at the same time.
Joe | | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | Oh dang! I set it according to the specs and used a micrometer....Not getting enough fuel???? | | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | Mixture screw should be 1 1/2 to 2 turns out from a seated position. If that doesn't help, then you have dirt somewhere or the float is really low causing a lean conditions. How did it run before the overhaul? Do not adjust timing till you get the carb running as least as good as it did before cleaning, you don't want two problems at the same time.
Joe I've got the mixture screw at 1 1/2 turns. I am not sure how it ran before I got it. According to the PO, "Fine!" But when it came off the transport trailer, it started up and a minute later died; carb completely choked down by rust that must have dislodged on the trip from Kentucky to Texas. I'll try the mixture screw....and pray THAT'S the answer..... easy fix....(I'm usually not that lucky, tho).... Thanks. -Lee | | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,440 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,440 | It's absolutely amazing what little gremlins will show up after a trailer ride of a few hundred miles. Unfortunately these carburetors can be a touch problematic. Probably something simple that you will slap your forehead and say "why didn't I think of that" when you find it.  Take all of our suggestions in the spirit they are given, after all we are here to help not belittle you or put down your abilities as a mechanic. 
Martin '62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress) '47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project) ‘65 Chevy Biscayne (Emily) ‘39 Dodge Business Coupe (Clarence) “I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one! Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line"! Hug a cop! USAF 1965-1969 Weather Observation Tech (I got paid to look at the clouds)
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,206 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,206 | Also check the fuel flow, crude could be clogging the fuel outlet at the tank. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,275 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,275 | Good catch on the gasket hole! Lots of people miss that one. With that ruled out, I would suspect an accumulation of varnish in the idle circuits. What is the history of the gas tank? The volatiles in ethanol gas is an excellent solvent for the many years of accumulated deposits on the walls of the tank which would normally have stayed in place. Now they may have migrated into the carburetor where it is now accumulated, plugging the tiny holes. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | any chance of a vacuum leak ? my advice may not be to good though, my 52 with a 235 had no choke, drove it for many yrs, pat the foot feed about 3 times, hit the stomp starter and she was purring like a kitten.. a few times in real freezing weather I played with it a little more but not much.......what do I know. I just not to over think it
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Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | [quote=52Carl What is the history of the gas tank?
Carl [/quote] I cleaned the tank w nuts and bolts and sealed it (POR15). The fuel lines are new, and the pump is new. I soaked the carb for 24 hrs and used my compressor to clean out all the passages. Installed a carb kit. All works great. I just cannot turn off the choke without killing the engine. I won't be home until tomorrow. So I'll get busy on it then. Thanks for all the info! You guys are the BEST!!!! | | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,440 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,440 | Get out your propane torch and open the valve slightly w/o lighting it. Start the engine and run the unlit torch around the carb slowly. If the engine speeds up you found a vacuum leak. While your at it you might as well run it around the intake ports and manifold.
Martin '62 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed (Restomod in progress) '47 Chevy 3100 5 Window (long term project) ‘65 Chevy Biscayne (Emily) ‘39 Dodge Business Coupe (Clarence) “I fought the law and the law won" now I are a retired one! Support those brave men/women who stand the "Thin Blue Line"! Hug a cop! USAF 1965-1969 Weather Observation Tech (I got paid to look at the clouds)
| | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | Get out your propane torch and open the valve slightly w/o lighting it. Start the engine and run the unlit torch around the carb slowly. If the engine speeds up you found a vacuum leak. While your at it you might as well run it around the intake ports and manifold. Very interesting..... You guys are so smart!!!!!Thanks! | | |
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