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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | Well, I got the '53 3100 running well, but man is it incredibly noisy and very rough riding. In the cab, it sounds like all the body panels are all loose, but they're not. Serious rattles all around. I'm sure it probably needs shocks, and the bed blocks are loose. I'm about half deaf, and I'm usually not very sound sensitive, but this ole rattle trap is excessively loud and rough riding. Do you guys have any suggestions how to quieten the beast?
(motor and muffler nice and quiet. Can't hardly tell if the motor is running due to all the rattles)
Last edited by Maddog53; 07/07/2016 3:05 PM.
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 | Um...it's not a 2016 Silverado. I'm assuming this is your first experience at driving such a vintage vehicle. If you think your half ton is bad you should slip over to Bremond some weekend and go for a ride my '50 4100. You may want to stop at Academy and pickup a mouth piece so you don't break any teeth.
1950 4100 - unrestored and driven weekly for almost no reason at all.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 385 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 385 | I covered every square inch of cab with sound deadening material and it made a world of difference. As for the rough ride...its still a 1950's truck don't expect a perfect ride on the old chassis. | | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | Actually, I've had two 1957 pickups and a 58 pickup....but this baby is a rough stretch of road..... I'm not really sensitive to rough riding vehicles, I have an old Camaro and an old vette, so I was just wondering if there's some hidden landmine in this body style I've yet to encounter and need to correct. Bang bang, bump bump!!! | | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,214 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,214 | Sounds like you need to address the kingpins. Good tight kingpins will quiet a frontend down pronto, as well as improving handling. Hopefully you justneed new bushings as they are the 1st to go. Also check the leaf spring shackles and their bushings to make sure all is tight and lubed up. My 49 rides like a, well, 49 1/2ton pickup truck but theres no bangs or bumps since I've addressed and repaired what I've recommended. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,280 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,280 | Sounds like a good goin' over of every moving part, and those parts which aren't supposed to move. A rubber mallet is a handy tool for finding loose body/bed parts. Just tap lightly on everything until you find the rattle. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,796 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,796 | "Rides rough- - - -makes noise- - - -leaks oil- - - -" It sounds like you might be driving a 1950's British sports car! Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 331 | "Rides rough- - - -makes noise- - - -leaks oil- - - -" It sounds like you might be driving a 1950's British sports car! Jerry Or a 1980's British sports car....
1950 4100 - unrestored and driven weekly for almost no reason at all.
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 | Noise on my 52 1/2 ton: Spring bushings(all of them). Bed mounts(rusted bolts, and bad wood blocks). Collapsed cab mounts(the front under the floor), and...loose glass in the wing windows. Then the best for last, a failed pinion bearing(driveshaft whip). King pins were worn(the bushings any way) and some crappy bias ply tires. Now? Not as quiet as a new car but I can listen to the radio at 60mph. Plenty of wind noise(still needs some rubber in the doors) and I did put sound deadener under the seat(that helped). Except for the Pinion bearing, it was typical old truck stuff.
Steve H
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,280 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,280 | Hey Steve, what color is your truck, and what part of Utah do you live, just in case I ever have to travel west of Utah, so I can drive clear around you? 
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | Thanks guys. I put the news shocks on and that helped quite a bit. I have a feeling new spring bushings are in order. Are they pressed in, or can we (who are tool challenged- ie: no press) pop 'em out with a mallet and a punch?
Last edited by Maddog53; 07/13/2016 1:25 PM.
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | Maddog, try this tech tip.... http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/bushingpuller.htmSome are not so bad but my luck is that at least one of them will be a booger! | | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | That Tech Tip is nothing short of brilliant! THANK YOU, Senior Chipmunk!!!! | | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | Gotcha! Heavier duty = good! Thanks, Tim! | | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | ....as "suitcase" says on the Jesse Stone movie series, "the information is out there, you just have to let it in" | | | | | Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 | All primer, black fenders, and top of cab. Brown every where else. Stop and say Hi.
Steve H
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,747 | I was able to use 1/2 bolt to pull the bushings from my springs. The 3/8 bolt just stretched and got soft. Above post was a ref to 52Carl so He can see me coming.
Steve H
| | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | I was able to use 1/2 bolt to pull the bushings from my springs. The 3/8 bolt just stretched and got soft. I'll start with the 1/2" bolt, Steve. I've always been a fan of a "bigger hammer!" Thanks for the help, guys!
Last edited by Maddog53; 07/14/2016 8:06 PM.
| | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2016 Posts: 83 | Did any of you soak the bushings in penetrating oil for a day or so before attempting removal? I'm sure it would really help. I just don't think I'd could just watch it sit in oil for a day when the project is right in front of me. I usually don't have much patience ....just ask my wife. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | ...maybe a squirt of Sili-Kroil and a little HEAT would help if they are that stubborn. | | |
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