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Danny 1958 GMC stepside GMC 302 six cylinder 3 speed OD trans
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 13 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 13 | The tag shows that it is from a 2.2L motor out of a 1993, and it is a World Class trans. (if the web site has it correct) http://www.britishv8.org/articles/borg-warner-t5-id-tags.htmThat might be a ford bolt pattern? I'm not sure without looking at it. I think Lugnutz comes on this board, if he does he will answer your question. In the mean time, look through his web site, he has spent a Sh** load of time putting it together and it is one of, if not the best reference sites going on the T5 http://lugnutz65chevystepside.weebly.com/t5-info-page.htmlJim
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | GPM 13-52-216 Borg Warner Automotive 61GPM U269679 On the paper tag
"cut one of the bolt ears off;That was professionally welded back on. Has a 26 spline input shaft.
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Danny 1958 GMC stepside GMC 302 six cylinder 3 speed OD trans
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 | I'm going to say no off-hand. I bought one of them awhile back. It actually has a Ford pattern on the trasmission, vs. the GM Muncie style. At the very least, you would need a Ford-Muncie adapter. Some of the early 90's F-bodies used the 26 spline shaft. You'll probably need the F body clutch disc and pressure plate if you go with it. Does it look like this? http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/w...ans2_zps71c6b402.png.html?sort=3&o=0 | | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | Yes , it looks like that on the input.
Danny 1958 GMC stepside GMC 302 six cylinder 3 speed OD trans
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 | I ended up selling mine and went another route. McLeod, Wilcap, and Advance Adapters make adapters. Get your checkbook out though. Don't really recall if any other modifications are needed.
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,094 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,094 | That's the ford bolt pattern. Gm used that in Astro vans s-10's and V 6 Camaros, they didn't stand up well to the v8 engines.
Tommy 59 apache 1/2t 261 short stepside | | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,951 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,951 | As mentioned above, the BRITISH V8 T5 CHART lists the 1352-216 as a 1993 T5 from an S10 truck. That website has been wrong on a few things on occasion. Typically they have the gearing numbers incorrect.
I will assume you have a Muncie pattern bell housing. 1993 was the last year the S10 T5 had a Muncie pattern case. I have owned several of the 1993 S10 T5s and all were world class with a VSS speedo output.
It is possible that it could be a Ford case pattern if GM switched during the later part of the 1993 production. You really want to avoid a Ford case pattern in my opinion. The cost to make it work with a Muncie bell is substantial.
You would have to decide what to do about the speedometer. A CABLE-X conversion box is an option to convert VSS to a cable output but it's expensive.
My advice is this: If it has a Ford pattern case - then pass and look for a Muncie pattern T5. Make sure your rear diff gear will work well with an OD gear. The chart lists the 1352-216 as a 0.76 OD which will work really well with a 3.73 or 3.90 diff. Be persistent with your search for a 1988 or earlier S10 T5 because they have a cable speedo connection. I usually find about 3 per year but I am always on the hunt.
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Danny 1958 GMC stepside GMC 302 six cylinder 3 speed OD trans
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