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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 192 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 192 | After playing with the accel pump linkage a bit I was able to reduce the initial throttle stumble on my '56 235 with stock 1bbl Rochester on my '53 3100, but haven't gotten rid of the acceleration dead spot until now. I have been taking it for a few short trips around the neighborhood since I got it minimally drivable, no air filter and only a few feet of exhaust pipe. Well, yesterday I finished up the new exhaust and mounted an element style air filter and took it for another ride to see how the exhaust performed. Lo-and-behold the stumble was hardly there, if at all. Air filter? Exhaust back pressure? Whatever made the difference I'm not sure, but it feels good knowing I own a pretty good running stovebolt! I suppose it's too much to ask to get rid of that hydraulic lifter tick? | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Is that a '56 235 car engine? With out going back thru all the past threads we, or at least I don't recall which engine you've got in your truck Lem. And without knowing exactly what you've used for an air cleaner it's hard to come to any conclusion. Every carburetor that I've tried on my '50 216, which are several meticulously rebuilt Rochester 'B's and a couple of W-1 carters, have left me with the stumble on acceleration. This was true without an air cleaner, with the spark arrestor using a paper filter, with an oil bath filter, with the original engine and after a complete engine rebuild. You will hear some experts tell you to jack your timing way up till it's pinging but I'm not an advocate of that. Set to the ball was the best performance that the engineers determined over tens of thousands of hours of dyno testing and the way millions of Stovebolts were designed to run, so that's where I've always set mine. The smoothest engine performance I've been able to accomplish is by adding a small amount of choke, which does eliminate the stumble when I apply throttle when I start off or hit the throttle to accelerate. This is true in all of the previously mentioned configurations. And this suggests to me that the engine is simply running lean. Why would it be running lean if the timing is correct, and the carburetor is correct and is metering the proper mixture? The conclusion that I've arrived at after 10 years and 15,000 miles is, it's the fuel that we're using now a days. It's doped with alcohol for one thing and who knows what else has been done to the refinement. Todays engines with their computer dictating mixture and timing many times a second can compensate for the fuel it's drinking, the simple Stovebolt can't. In the ten years that I've been on the Stovebolt.com forum and many other forums, I've yet to hear any other valid solutions.
I doubt very seriously if your new exhaust has anything to do with the hesitation. If your air cleaner is choking down the engine a little that may account for the reason the stumble is gone now. The original air filters/spark arrestors offered very little restriction to air flow compared to the paper filters, that's why generally the air cleaners that use a paper element are quite a bit larger than the old oil bath or oil soaked mesh filters.
Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
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| | | | | Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 192 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 192 | Denny, it is a '56 235 hydraulic lifter engine out of a car with a manual transmission according to my figuring. I put a mr. Gasket paper element air filter on it (which is a very poorly designed piece of equipment) I had to run a bead of silicone around the base to plug up the gaping holes left by the poor fit on the carb. I have jacked a couple degrees of advance into the timing, but that did nothing for the stumble, I'm debating on whether or not to put it back to zero. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Thought you might have a truck engine with solids that needed adjustment. The hydraulics do get gummed up, they are very close tolerance, just a few tenths clearance on the plungers. If your sure they are getting oil and the galley isn't plugged up, you can pull the lifter and dissasemble it to clean the varnish. What ever you do don't use sandpaper or wire brush the them. A solvent an fine (white) scotch bright will clean them. Also soaking them in carburetor cleaner can help soften any varnish. If you do end up disassembling the lifters to clean them, keep them in order and on the same lobe and be VERY meticulous about the reassembly. No pliers, no scratches and clean hands, clean bench, clean lifter when you're dealing with parts have that close of a fit. Compare this to the average human hair which is .002"-.004" and you have some idea of how close a few tenths is. Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
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| | | | | Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 192 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 192 | I took all the lifters apart and cleaned them last winter, keeping them all in order. Then very carefully adjusted them. | | |
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