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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,780 Posts1,039,292 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 | I bought some great barn doors for my '50 burb. I really like them for my usage. Clamshells ended up being beyond repair. My problem is this. The barn doors came from a panel. I have two sets of stops but they are too long. Can I cut them down and fit them or do I need the shorter stops? Anyone cut them to fit? | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | Tony, I've never cut any, or know anyone who has..but that don't mean they haven't. Post in the Parts Wanted forum and keep and check e-bay. They come up fairly regular. | | | | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,185 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,185 | Tony, try fastening a bolt through the opening in the stop. By sliding the bolt through the slot, you can adjust how far open the doors go. | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 | Thanks Achipmunk. I'll post in Parts Wanted if no one has worked a pair of these. | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 | I'll look at that one in the daylight. I think it will work but the arm being longer may not fit the indentation at the top of the door. | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Tony, are you sure the door stops are 47-55?
I think that 47-55 Panel rear doors should be interchangeable with 47-55 Suburban with rear doors.
The Panel vs Suburban stops were different but the doors were, I think, the same.
Well, almost the same: at some time the light wiring contact/conduits changed, and some/all Suburbans came with stainless-steel trim around rear door windows (I am not sure if Panels had that SS trim). | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 | Thanks for the reply tclederman. I got one set with the doors loose and the other set I removed from a 47-53 panel in a MD junkyard. They are identical in length. But when the door is shut, the bracket doesn't fold into the recess/indentation at the top of each door and hits the top. That makes me think there must be a difference in length between panel and burb stops. | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | OK, tonymus53. Maybe someone will have an answer,
Sorry about my questioning.
Maybe the stops have been bent? | | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,149 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,149 | Some/all Suburbans came with stainless-steel trim around rear door windows (I am not sure if Panels had that SS trim). The Deluxe Panel came with SS trim around rear barn door windows. | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,988 Sir Searchalot | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,988 | On 55.2-59 (known as TF) Panels have different door checks than suburbans. Panels have a slotted check with rubber bumper which allows opening 3/4 or full, so as to load cargo. Suburbans have a two bar pivot check with no bumper which allows 3/4 only. I don't know about AD (47-55.1). I would imagine that if AD had two different checks, either should fit the door pocket. I would imagine the burb checks would be shorter than panel like they are on TF. If they don't fit a stock door they are probably wrong. You could have a pair from a Ford or a TF. They look almost the same. Whatever they are, if they are old, they are reasonably rare and I would NEVER modify them. I would figure out what they are and sell them and buy the correct ones. | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | As posted above, A-D (47-55) Panel and Suburban rear door stops were different. The Suburban stops did not allow as close a back-up to a loading dock.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! | "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 | Some/all Suburbans came with stainless-steel trim around rear door windows (I am not sure if Panels had that SS trim). That is a negative on my '51 Suburban. It didn't come with trim around the rear window. | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 Extreme Gabster | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 | I think the stainless around the rear windows was '54-55.1 only. | | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,149 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,149 | I think the stainless around the rear windows was '54-55.1 only. For Suburban or both 54-55.1 Deluxe Panel trk and Suburban. | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 | Thanks Bartamos. I won't cut anything. Let me do some more investigating on differences with the AD checks then. Maybe someone can send me a pic of their own checks if they have them on a burb. | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 | Thanks Jorb. My checks look like those in the drawing. However, they don't show a different part # for panel and burb use? | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 | Mark. I checked your gallery pics. You have a clear pic of checks for the AD burb. Now I see the difference and know what to look for! Thanks. | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Thanks Jorb. My checks look like those in the drawing. However, they don't show a different part # for panel and burb use? Are you looking for the part numbers for the stops: Section 16.430 Note: 47-55st Panel and Suburban Rear/Back Doors are the same: Section 16.160 47-55st Panel and Suburban rear door stops should work on all 47-55st Panel and Suburban rear doors. | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! | "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 | Mark. I checked your gallery pics. You have a clear pic of checks for the AD burb. Now I see the difference and know what to look for! Thanks. Your welcome! If you need more, let me know! | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 | Thanks Tim. I will check part numbers with what I have already. | | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,149 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,149 | This topic is interesting because I learned something. #1. 47-55 1st Panel and Suburban L/R rear back doors are the same. Group # 16.160 #2. There is a different Door Stop/Check for Panel and Suburban. Group 16.430.....47-55 1st Panel .....50-55 1st Suburban (I believe in 1950 rear back doors were offered for the AD Suburban) #3. 47-57 Panel rubber Bumper for the Stop/Check is listed under ..... Group # 16.437 Pin Door Check Link, .....47-57 BUMPER, rear door check, part # 371890 .....Only in the 1929- 1957 Chevrolet Master Parts & Accessories Catalog Additional pictures: 1954 shop manual Panel Bodies Page 1 Page 2 MNSmith, 1951 Chevy Suburban Door Stop/Check pictures Door Stop/Check 1 Door Stop/Check 2 It is interesting that they made two types of Door Stops/Checks for Panel and Suburban. I am not sure if the mounting holes are the same though. Thanks for the Education. | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Did you see what year the panel doors' method of routing electrical leads to the rear lamp changed from metal-to-metal contacts (door-to-body) to a spring-like conduit through-which the leads/wires were run to the stop/brake/marker lamp?
I cannot find those parts in the MP&AC.
| | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 38 | Thanks Jorb for the clarification and the good pics! | | | | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,185 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,185 | Did you see what year the panel doors' method of routing electrical leads to the rear lamp changed from metal-to-metal contacts (door-to-body) to a spring-like conduit through-which the leads/wires were run to the stop/brake/marker lamp?
I cannot find those parts in the MP&AC. Interesting question Tim. I have the spring-like conduit on my '53. When Jim Carter saw it, he took a photograph, hadn't seen them before. | | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,149 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,149 | Did you see what year the panel doors' method of routing electrical leads to the rear lamp changed from metal-to-metal contacts (door-to-body) to a spring-like conduit through-which the leads/wires were run to the stop/brake/marker lamp? I cannot find those parts in the MP&AC. I found the metal-to-metal contacts in the 1929-1957 MP&AC. Group # 2.447 37-51 Switch Tail and Stop Lamp parts numbers 594904 and 594905 1952 was year, they went to spring-like conduit. I can't find the spring-like conduit in MP&AC though. It is in the FAM. Wire Assy. 5299935 sec.12, sheet 15.021 and 15.002 | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | As always, Thanks jorb
Good recommendation, bartamos | | |
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