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#1118784 08/13/2015 2:58 AM
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I bought some great barn doors for my '50 burb. I really like them for my usage. Clamshells ended up being beyond repair. My problem is this. The barn doors came from a panel. I have two sets of stops but they are too long. Can I cut them down and fit them or do I need the shorter stops? Anyone cut them to fit?

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Tony, I've never cut any, or know anyone who has..but that don't mean they haven't.
Post in the Parts Wanted forum and keep and check e-bay. They come up fairly regular.


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Tony, try fastening a bolt through the opening in the stop. By sliding the bolt through the slot, you can adjust how far open the doors go.

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Thanks Achipmunk. I'll post in Parts Wanted if no one has worked a pair of these.

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I'll look at that one in the daylight. I think it will work but the arm being longer may not fit the indentation at the top of the door.

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Tony, are you sure the door stops are 47-55?

I think that 47-55 Panel rear doors should be interchangeable with 47-55 Suburban with rear doors.

The Panel vs Suburban stops were different but the doors were, I think, the same.

Well, almost the same: at some time the light wiring contact/conduits changed, and some/all Suburbans came with stainless-steel trim around rear door windows (I am not sure if Panels had that SS trim).

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Thanks for the reply tclederman. I got one set with the doors loose and the other set I removed from a 47-53 panel in a MD junkyard. They are identical in length. But when the door is shut, the bracket doesn't fold into the recess/indentation at the top of each door and hits the top. That makes me think there must be a difference in length between panel and burb stops.

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OK, tonymus53. Maybe someone will have an answer,

Sorry about my questioning.

Maybe the stops have been bent?

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Originally Posted by tclederman
Some/all Suburbans came with stainless-steel trim around rear door windows (I am not sure if Panels had that SS trim).
The Deluxe Panel came with SS trim around rear barn door windows.

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On 55.2-59 (known as TF) Panels have different door checks than suburbans. Panels have a slotted check with rubber bumper which allows opening 3/4 or full, so as to load cargo. Suburbans have a two bar pivot check with no bumper which allows 3/4 only. I don't know about AD (47-55.1). I would imagine that if AD had two different checks, either should fit the door pocket. I would imagine the burb checks would be shorter than panel like they are on TF. If they don't fit a stock door they are probably wrong. You could have a pair from a Ford or a TF. They look almost the same. Whatever they are, if they are old, they are reasonably rare and I would NEVER modify them. I would figure out what they are and sell them and buy the correct ones.

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As posted above, A-D (47-55) Panel and Suburban rear door stops were different. The Suburban stops did not allow as close a back-up to a loading dock.

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Originally Posted by tclederman
Some/all Suburbans came with stainless-steel trim around rear door windows (I am not sure if Panels had that SS trim).

That is a negative on my '51 Suburban. It didn't come with trim around the rear window.

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I think the stainless around the rear windows was '54-55.1 only.


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Originally Posted by cletis
I think the stainless around the rear windows was '54-55.1 only.
For Suburban or both 54-55.1 Deluxe Panel trk and Suburban.

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MPC Door Check Support illustration
And part page below.
MPC Check, Door Group # 16.430
Some Bumper parts above that Group # also.

This might be the rear door window Stainless steel moulding.
MPC Moulding back window glass Grp # 16.475

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Thanks Bartamos. I won't cut anything. Let me do some more investigating on differences with the AD checks then. Maybe someone can send me a pic of their own checks if they have them on a burb.

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Thanks Jorb. My checks look like those in the drawing. However, they don't show a different part # for panel and burb use?

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Mark. I checked your gallery pics. You have a clear pic of checks for the AD burb. Now I see the difference and know what to look for! Thanks.

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Originally Posted by tonymus53
Thanks Jorb. My checks look like those in the drawing. However, they don't show a different part # for panel and burb use?
Are you looking for the part numbers for the stops: Section 16.430

Note: 47-55st Panel and Suburban Rear/Back Doors are the same: Section 16.160

47-55st Panel and Suburban rear door stops should work on all 47-55st Panel and Suburban rear doors.

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Originally Posted by tonymus53
Mark. I checked your gallery pics. You have a clear pic of checks for the AD burb. Now I see the difference and know what to look for! Thanks.

Your welcome! If you need more, let me know!

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Thanks Tim. I will check part numbers with what I have already.

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This topic is interesting because I learned something.

#1. 47-55 1st Panel and Suburban L/R rear back doors are the same. Group # 16.160

#2. There is a different Door Stop/Check for Panel and Suburban. Group 16.430
.....47-55 1st Panel
.....50-55 1st Suburban (I believe in 1950 rear back doors were offered for the AD Suburban)

#3
. 47-57 Panel rubber Bumper for the Stop/Check is listed under
.....Group # 16.437 Pin Door Check Link,
.....47-57 BUMPER, rear door check, part # 371890
.....Only in the 1929-1957 Chevrolet Master Parts & Accessories Catalog

Additional pictures:
1954 shop manual Panel Bodies
Page 1
Page 2

MNSmith, 1951 Chevy Suburban Door Stop/Check pictures
Door Stop/Check 1
Door Stop/Check 2

It is interesting that they made two types of Door Stops/Checks for Panel and Suburban.
I am not sure if the mounting holes are the same though.

Thanks for the Education.

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Did you see what year the panel doors' method of routing electrical leads to the rear lamp changed from metal-to-metal contacts (door-to-body) to a spring-like conduit through-which the leads/wires were run to the stop/brake/marker lamp?

I cannot find those parts in the MP&AC.

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Thanks Jorb for the clarification and the good pics!

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Originally Posted by tclederman
Did you see what year the panel doors' method of routing electrical leads to the rear lamp changed from metal-to-metal contacts (door-to-body) to a spring-like conduit through-which the leads/wires were run to the stop/brake/marker lamp?

I cannot find those parts in the MP&AC.
Interesting question Tim. I have the spring-like conduit on my '53. When Jim Carter saw it, he took a photograph, hadn't seen them before.

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Originally Posted by tclederman
Did you see what year the panel doors' method of routing electrical leads to the rear lamp changed from metal-to-metal contacts (door-to-body) to a spring-like conduit through-which the leads/wires were run to the stop/brake/marker lamp? I cannot find those parts in the MP&AC.
I found the metal-to-metal contacts in the 1929-1957 MP&AC.
Group # 2.447
37-51 Switch Tail and Stop Lamp parts numbers 594904 and 594905

1952 was year, they went to spring-like conduit.
I can't find the spring-like conduit in MP&AC though.
It is in the FAM.
Wire Assy. 5299935
sec.12, sheet 15.021 and 15.002



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As always, Thanks jorb

Good recommendation, bartamos


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