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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,254 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,254 | Patrick's antique parts shows an adaptor for the gm Saginaw cast iron 4 speed for the torque tube trucks.
I have a 48 3100 with the torque tube and would like to hear if anyone has used this.
How do I identify this transmission? How much are they worth? Is this a good option instead of the 3:55 gears? What else is needed for this conversion? Any other information is welcomed.
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| | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | Is this a good option instead of the 3:55 gears?
Thanks This is the only part I can answer for you; Basically, the answer would be no. The Saginaw 4 speed still has a 1:1 final gear, same as the 3 and 4 speed original transmissions. The advantage is the that the gear ratios are closer together, which makes for better drivability. But for improved road speeds/lower rpm at a given speed, the only thing that would help that is either a higher gear set (lower numerically) or an overdrive transmission. That said, the Saginaw conversion is really meant to compliment the 3.55 gear set, rather than an either/or situation.
Bill Burmeister | | | | | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,254 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,254 | Thank you
Now to find the best price on the 3:55 gears. I am sure this topic has been spoken on many times but any suggestions or advice?
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | apparently the best price is from mothertrucker in AZ, but note that you'll also need the 'installation kit' [bearings and such], which I don't think he can supply
Bill | | | | | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 | I've used the Saginaw 4 speed and it's fine but better set up and possibly much less money would be the T-5. Has an overdrive gear, you don't need to buy a shifter and being a top loader it's centered in the floor. Need to lose the torque tube and go to more modern driveshaft and replace or modify the rear end.
Lots of how-to articles on the T-5 swap. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | Two birds with one stone: Get the Saginaw and dump the tube and rear end. Get a 3.08 or 3.42 for hiway or the perfect all around ratio: 3.73. No adaptor needed. 4 speed Saginaw has three shift levers and ID from the web. There are several ratios of them , identified by the grooves on the input shaft. Price varies. $150-$400 , get the shifter with it if you can. There is one on San Diego/OC craigslist now for $200. And one in L.A. with clutch, bell housing, fly wheel, Hurst shifter and the trans is rebuilt for $600.(3 groove)...Hesperia with Bell housing $180 (3 groove). They have shaft size and spline count differences, I think, so be real sure it fits your setup before you buy. Also check clearance to truck bench seat. Buckets? No problem.
Saginaw 4-speed 1st 2nd 3rd 4th (according to the web) No grooves 2.84 2.01 1.35 1.00 1 groove 2.54 1.80 1.44 1.00 2 grooves 3.11 2.20 1.47 1.00 3 grooves 3.50 2.47 1.65 1.00
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