The Stovebolt.com Forums Home | Tech Tips | Gallery | FAQ | Events | Features | Search
9 - 11 Memorials

Searching the Site - a click away
click here to search
New here ??? Where to start?
Click on image for the lowdown. Where do I go around here?
====
Who's Online Now
2 members (Hotrod Lincoln, Hush), 58 guests, and 4 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics128,021
Posts1,055,355
Members48,420
Most Online14,466
Apr 26th, 2026
Step-by-step instructions for pictures in the forums
Brad Allen's photos

AD Chevy Trucks

Pictures galore
Over 6,000 pictures

Brad Allen has an awesome collection of Chevrolet factory pictures that he has set up from film strips.

Check them out!

Lots of work on Brad's part ... pure enjoyment (and references) for you!

Big Thanks!

THANKS!

For helping keep this great
old truck web site
on the Internet for

over 30 years!

and not clogged down
with Ads!


Again, thanks!

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#1033729 06/05/2014 11:03 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 46
O
'Bolter
'Bolter
O Offline
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 46
Have a 235, flywheel has a triangle, a line,a circle and another line, assume these are timing marks as they have different color paint marks on them. Whats what? I put in a new distributor and cant get truck to run so I need to start from square 1 . Thanks in advance

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,377
T
Ex Hall Monitor
Ex Hall Monitor
T Offline
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,377
The / in U/C is top dead center. The BB is for setting ignition timing.


Save a life, adopt a senior shelter pet.
The three main causes of blindness: Cataracts, Politics, Religion.
Name your dog Naked so you can walk Naked in the park.
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,337
P
'Bolter
'Bolter
P Offline
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,337
The triangle is for checking cam timing. [url=https://picasaweb.google.com/112949077257205863243/6VoltFlywheelStarterTeeth?

https://chev235guy.blogspot.com/search/label/Flywheel%20Timing%20Marks?m=0


See the USA in your vintage Chevrolet!
My Blog
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,671
D
'Bolter
'Bolter
D Offline
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,671
And what would U/C stand for literally Richard, Upper Center????

There was a discussion in another thread yesterday that should
give you a simple way of dropping that distributor in and
setting the timing pretty durn close to where you want it. At
least well within the ball park so the engine will start right
up and then you can zero in on the ball with a timing light.

Initial timing:
https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthread...rds=Denny+Graham&Search=true#Post1033425

DG


Last edited by Denny Graham; 06/06/2014 2:16 AM.

Denny G
Sandwich, IL
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269

UC and U/C mean Upper Center = TDC Top Dead Center

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,671
D
'Bolter
'Bolter
D Offline
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,671
Well yeah!!!! Tiny already said that Timothy, question was, does the U/C
really mean Upper Center???? Never cede that in any of the
manuals, always was referred to as TDC, wonder why they dint
stamp the flywheel TDC instead of U/C.

DG

Last edited by Denny Graham; 06/06/2014 2:22 AM.

Denny G
Sandwich, IL
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269

What about UDC, Denny?

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269

U|C (TDC) and 5 degrees off of it (235 flywheel, year unknown)

UC or U|C would perhaps be more meaningful than U/C?

UDC (U.D.C.) is used in almost all Shop Manuals for TDC valve timing.

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,671
D
'Bolter
'Bolter
D Offline
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,671
Well I'll be danged, you would think after 72 years I would have
noticed everything at least once. Guess I should read the fine
print or maybe it's just my dyslexia but I've always read T.D.C.
into it when referencing any of the manuals. Or maybe it's just
that I have read Upper and Lower dead center and just forgot I
saw it that way:
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1948_51truck/51ctsm0606.htm
So from now on the meaning of those hieroglyphics on the
flywheel should be crystal clear to all who stare in wonder.


Think we've about covered this one, no?
Denny Graham
D|C in Sandwich, IL


Denny G
Sandwich, IL
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,377
T
Ex Hall Monitor
Ex Hall Monitor
T Offline
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,377
Originally Posted by tclederman
U|C (TDC) and 5 degrees off of it (235 flywheel, year unknown)

UC or U|C would perhaps be more meaningful than U/C?

UDC (U.D.C.) is used in almost all Shop Manuals for TDC valve timing.
Tim, what character did you use for the vertical mark? I use the slash mark because I don't see a solid vertical mark on my keyboard.


Save a life, adopt a senior shelter pet.
The three main causes of blindness: Cataracts, Politics, Religion.
Name your dog Naked so you can walk Naked in the park.
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 46
O
'Bolter
'Bolter
O Offline
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 46
Not sure where you guys got the U C. I dont have those markings, and I dont have the BB. Ive screwed with this thing all day and cannot get it to fire. I pulled number 1 plug and got it on compression stroke and set dist to number
1 just so I get get it close. Its tries but fights hard. I have fuel , got spark, got good compression, its always the simple stuff that get you. I'm lost and beyond frustrated!

Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 2,074
J
'Bolter
'Bolter
J Offline
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 2,074
Could have bad condensor or points, coil etc etc. If you have some spares I'd swap those out. Check ign wires, easy to cross 3 & 4. Vacuum leak will make you crazy also. If you have some B-12 Chemtool spray, it's great for starting help. Keep at it you'll find the culprit. I had one of these same frustrating events, took me three weeks to find the disolved paper fuel filter living in my carburetor.
Best of luck


It's easier to get forgiveness than permission!
1946 1/2-Ton Chevy
1953 Chevy 3/4-ton Factory Stakebed
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269
Originally Posted by Tiny
Tim, what character did you use for the vertical mark? I use the slash mark because I don't see a solid vertical mark on my keyboard.

| = bar (vertical bar) - keystroke: upper-case "\" (back slash)

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,263
D
Shop Shark
Shop Shark
D Offline
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,263
Originally Posted by oldblue48
Have a 235, flywheel has a triangle, a line,a circle and another line,
Originally Posted by oldblue48
Not sure where you guys got the U C. I dont have those markings, and I dont have the BB

What is the circle you reference?
Do you have a pic?


...some Call it a BB... It's a circular dimple in the flywheel...

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Bubba - Curmudgeon
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 29,269

Different years and engine sizes had different markings.

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,263
D
Shop Shark
Shop Shark
D Offline
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,263
Good point

The pic I posted above is off my 50, 139 tooth flywheel
I was curious about the circle he mentioned


Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,671
D
'Bolter
'Bolter
D Offline
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,671


Denny G
Sandwich, IL
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,377
T
Ex Hall Monitor
Ex Hall Monitor
T Offline
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,377
Originally Posted by tclederman
Originally Posted by Tiny
Tim, what character did you use for the vertical mark? I use the slash mark because I don't see a solid vertical mark on my keyboard.

| = bar (vertical bar) - keystroke: upper-case "\" (back slash)
OK, that shows as a double vertical dash on my keyboard but it does display as a solid line. Thanks.


Save a life, adopt a senior shelter pet.
The three main causes of blindness: Cataracts, Politics, Religion.
Name your dog Naked so you can walk Naked in the park.
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,747
S
'Bolter
'Bolter
S Offline
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,747
OK so keyboards ain't the same either. My keyboard: \, shift and |, Works backwards from tclederman.....hum... oh well it works.

My fly wheel has a delta/triangle, a BB and ....that is all folks.
On a 55-59 235 but,...it is a 6 volt flywheel so ... who knows.
My friends 57 235 has all three marks...so who knows. By the way his is a 12 volt as is the original spec for his truck. Not that that means much. After 55 to 60 plus years what has not been molested or changed on our trucks. And now I have to add keyboards..OK time for BEER! smile


Steve H
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,270
5
Renaissance Man
Renaissance Man
5 Offline
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 10,270
Originally Posted by Denny Graham
Well I'll be danged, you would think after 72 years I would have
noticed everything at least once. Guess I should read the fine
print or maybe it's just my dyslexia but I've always read T.D.C.
into it when referencing any of the manuals. Or maybe it's just
that I have read Upper and Lower dead center and just forgot I
saw it that way:
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1948_51truck/51ctsm0606.htm
So from now on the meaning of those hieroglyphics on the
flywheel should be crystal clear to all who stare in wonder.


Think we've about covered this one, no?
Denny Graham
D|C in Sandwich, IL
In perfect Southern Illinois vernacular, read real slow like, "You shoulda knowed that". My wife's Granny from Olmstead used to say that to me many, many times.
Carl


1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,671
D
'Bolter
'Bolter
D Offline
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,671
Taint got time to read real slow Carl, with all I got on my
plate best I can do is skim thru the pictures.

Gonna be hard or darn near impossible for me to change my ways
now. Even though the book might say Upper Center, Me pop called
it T.D.C. as did everyone that I've rubbed elbows with over the
past half century plus a few, must be the part of the country
that I come from.

And once again, don't cha think this ones about burned it self out, no????
DG

Last edited by Denny Graham; 06/07/2014 10:35 AM.

Denny G
Sandwich, IL
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 46
O
'Bolter
'Bolter
O Offline
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 46
Dropped the nastiest distributor in I could find as a last ditch effort and the darn thing fired right up, runs great! Whatever....... Moving on


Moderated by  Phak1, Woogeroo 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Home | FAQ | Gallery | Tech Tips | Events | Features | Search | Hoo-Ya Shop
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0