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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 | My 1954 235 specs says it has a 3.70 rear and Patricks 3.55 would be a lot cheaper than a T5 swap, but can you really "cruise at 65 without engine strain"? Anybody have experience with this combo? Thanks. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 | The difference between a 3:70 and a 3:55 is not worth the effort. You could get the same effect by going to one size bigger tire. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 | Thanks. I'm going to go with the tallest tire I can find in a radial and hopefully I can do 65 without strain. If not, back to the shop. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | Mt54,
Which 1954 truck specs says 3.70 rear?
Most likely that is a miss-type of 3.90 standard 1/2 ton rear in 1954 trucks (there was no optional rear in 1954)?
I agree with Don, I wouldn't change from a 3.70, but I did change from a 3.90 to the 3.55 (31.5" diameter radials). I can cruise all day at 65, stopping every 150-180 miles for gas.
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 | I think he may be working on a car, they had a 3:70 gear in them. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | That is what I thought, Don
Being a truck discussion board, I assumed truck, but I did ask the question about the rear.
Will Patrick's 3.55 R&P set work in a car rear-end?
Will the 3.70 car R&P work on a 47-54 truck rear end (with the right carrier)?
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,248 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,248 | That is what I thought, Don
Being a truck discussion board, I assumed truck, but I did ask the question about the rear.
Will Patrick's 3.55 R&P set work in a car rear-end?
Will the 3.70 car R&P work on a 47-54 truck rear end (with the right carrier)? No, car differential gears are smaller than 1/2 ton pickup, so are the axles. John | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Patrick has the 3.55 gears for both car and truck, although they say the one for the car is 'currently not available'
Bill | | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 | The 50-54 Powerglide equipped cars came with a 3:55 rear end. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 18 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 18 | Patrick has the 3.55 gears for both car and truck, although they say the one for the car is 'currently not available'
Bill Interesting point, Bill...I'm glad I'm reading! I had no idea the gear sizes were different from truck to car. Yesterday, when I spoke with Patrick about purchasing a set of 3.55's, he said they were on order. Then he asked me what I drive. I told him "Fleetline." He then took my address to send me a catalog. So he clearly knows what I need (when the new shipment comes in), but I'll make it a point to specify so that I get the right instructions when I do order. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 | Sorry missed the conversation. I see I had looked at car ratios. Now it looks like I might have to do a Patricks swap. Thanks to all! | | | | | Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 | tclederman - What tires are you running at 31.5? Where does that put your rpm at 65 mph? Thanks. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | 3.55 rear 31.5 tire diameter 1.00 top gear 65 mph 2461 rpm Cooper SRM II, LT 215/85R16 Radial on 4.5" wide 16" original wheel light truck blackwall radial tire it has a high/narrow profile and looks "normal" | | | | | Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 | I hear the sweet spot is a little lower rpm. Are you running a stock motor and 4 speed?
My wheels are pretty rusty so I need to source new ones. Did you put tubes in? | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | I agree about the sweet-spot rpm. I run at 60-65 mph for better gas mileage (261 with 2-barrel Holley AA-1 carb used on 302/270 GMC engines).
4-speed/3-speed - why does it matter? Both are 1:1 in high gear.
Yes, I have have tubes. My Cooper dealer put them in. I'll not use tubes on the '54 I am restoring - it had primo original wheels. I have been driving with the radial/tubes for 9+ years.
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 | One more thing, I'm putting in A/C. Am I asking too much from the 235 even with the 3.55 and tall tires to pull 60-65 mph?
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | 60-65 with the 3.55 gears isn't a problem and as drafty as these things are you shouldn't need A/C at speed, just open the vents and enjoy the breeze  personally I think it's asking too much of a 235 to run A/C if you use it regular and want the 235 to live long Bill | | | | | Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 32 | I live in SoCal and wanted the option to run A/C. Thanks for the info. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,299 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,299 | I agree about the sweet-spot rpm. I run at 60-65 mph for better gas mileage (261 with 2-barrel Holley AA-1 carb used on 302/270 GMC engines).
4-speed/3-speed - why does it matter? Both are 1:1 in high gear.
Yes, I have have tubes. My Cooper dealer put them in. I'll not use tubes on the '54 I am restoring - it had primo original wheels. I have been driving with the radial/tubes for 9+ years. I was wondering about 3 versus 4 speed myself, but not regarding high gear. I was wondering about how first gear with a 3 speed performs on steep slopes. I have some steep boat ramps and carry way too much equipment in my boat, and am worried about pulling up the ramp with 3.55 gears and 31.5 inch tires. I currently have 3.73 rearend (1970ish)and stock rims with radial tires (outside diameter unknown), and I don't have a lot of power out of the hole on steep grades. I have a 52 235 Blue Flame, BTW. Would I be better off with a 4 speed or a T-5 if I went to 3.55 gears?
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | The 3-speed 1st with the 3.55 is a little too high for starts on a steep slope (especially if you have a load). It is OK, otherwise.
I start in 2nd with my SM-420 4-speed, unless I want to burn rubber or unless I have a load on a hill.
| | | | | Joined: May 2013 Posts: 19 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: May 2013 Posts: 19 | I went to 3:55 on my 41 1/2 ton. The good thing is they are tapered gears and it eliminated the wining the old gears had. I may have picked up 5 mph. I don't have a tach but can feel the comfortable speed which is about 60 mph. Thinking about a "Gear Vendor" overdrive. Anyone have any experience wit this? | | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 | The T-5 is a good choice but they are not very good for heavy vehicles or used as a tow vehicle. How heavy is your boat? | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,299 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,299 | The T-5 is a good choice but they are not very good for heavy vehicles or used as a tow vehicle. How heavy is your boat? Its a 14 foot aluminum jon boat, about as heavy as I can safely stop with stock brakes.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
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