and theres even more good news,,, after prying open the stuck !!!! glove box door,, the ID plate that everyone else had looked for was there under about 1/4 inch of crap,,that i cleaned n, dusted of to reveal

http://s468.photobucket.com/user/spanners1964/media/GMC27OCT2013032_zps2cf2f1d0.jpg.html
http://s468.photobucket.com/user/spanners1964/media/GMC27OCT2013031_zpsf3c4fc6f.jpg.html


live or die do it with spanner in hand