All great ideas, my uncle used the wax torch method many times. The 235 is still in the truck so flame combined with oil and crud may not be a good idea??? I once saw a magazine article that took ATF and something else to make a break free product that worked better than store bought PB or Kroil....I cant remember what the other ingredient was, if anyone knows let us know and we will brew up a batch and give that a shot. It might also help someone else with same problem. I know you guys have secret formulas so help us out with the ingredients. Thanks. Steve