Waldo...YEP.. right now as far as I can make out its at about 5 BTDC...how in the heck did they crane their necks that way...you say use a light but there are no degree marks just...I...O....I... its a 55-57 engine 235...I'll burn a 100 gallons to make it work right as my wife wants a smooth running truck or else..NO truck! THANKS, Steve